Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Baarle photos<br/>
Date: Mar 13, 2001 @ 06:59<br/>
Author: Brendan Whyte (&quot;Brendan Whyte&quot; &lt;brwhyte@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1390501591">There are NO monuments for the enclaves, neither along the main border <br/>
between posts 214 and 215.<br/>
In 1843 the border commission gave up trying to sort out Baarle and relied <br/>
on an earlier plot by plot determination of ownership that the mayor&#39;s had <br/>
drawn up for tax purposes.<br/>
IN 1974 the 2 countries finally decided enough was enough, and they defined <br/>
the missing section of the main border, BUT SPECIFICALLY NOT THE ENCLAVES. <br/>
They delimited the border that was missed out in 1843, which was that <br/>
between posts 214 and 215 on either side of Baarle commune.<br/>
The new delimitation follows ditches and small creeks and canals mainly, so <br/>
didn&#39;t really need posts, and they specifically decided for cost and other <br/>
reasons not to monument it.<br/>
In 1995 they got around to delimiting the enclaves. For reasons of costs AND <br/>
that the border goes through buildings (including one woodshed where it <br/>
makes 3, count them, 3 near-rightangle turns), they did not monument it. But <br/>
they did write up every turning point, all 959 of them, including the <br/>
coordinates in both natrional grids down to the nearest cm.<br/>
David has the 1:10k Dutch maps of the area, so I can&#39;t figure out how he <br/>
couldn&#39;t work out the quad point given i posted both nation&#39;s coords for <br/>
this point a few messages ago...<br/>
So, they drew up the border exactly, but as for 150 years and more people <br/>
had been living with approximations of it in their brains, and so had <br/>
&#39;ground rules&#39; to deal with it, there was no need for exact monuments. <br/>
Givemn the field that the quad is in the middle of has owners for the <br/>
different parts, they need to know how far they can sow or reap. Hence <br/>
someone stuck a pole in the ground to show where to harvest up to.<br/>
It is probably pretty accurate. It seemed fine to me.<br/>
<br/>
Likewise the other border lines in the villag,e inside and ouside buildings, <br/>
are probably pretty accurate, but are not official.<br/>
<br/>
Currently the councils are sticking down metal catseye-like discs in roads <br/>
and pavements to show toursits the border. Agian, unofficial, but if they <br/>
are oging to market the place as having a weird border, they need to have a <br/>
visible weird borderto show. Thus the discs.<br/>
<br/>
I was also told there would be a model of the village erected outside the <br/>
church (Belgian) with buttonsd to push which would elevate each enclave! <br/>
Cool, huh!? This is meant to be ready in 2001. Likewise the road disks are <br/>
geing put down as a programme of road resealing is completed, and it was <br/>
only partial when i was there in Oct 2000.<br/>
Should be completed 2001 i was told.<br/>
<br/>
B<br/>
<br/>
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