Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Pope Line/ Oz tps
Date: Mar 14, 2001 @ 02:04
Author: David Mark (David Mark <dmark@...>)
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It was widely "known" in ancient Greek time that the Earth was spherical,
and Columbus certainly "knew" it, and on the other hand Magellan really
didn't "prove" it, you can sail in a big circle on a disk too.

David

On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Brendan Whyte wrote:

> No, until Magellan no one knew the world was round, so couldn't draw a line
> on the other side. Remember longitude was a damn difficult thing to
> calculate for centuries, so any line would have been highly inaccurate
> anyway, for anyone trying to work out where it was in relation to their
> boat.
>
> >From: peter.smaardijk@...
> >Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: museum map
> >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:31:31 -0000
> >
> >Are you sure there wasn't a pope's line in Australia? As far as I
> >know, according to the Tordesillas treaty a line was drawn somewhere
> >near 50 deg. west long. But the world was cut in half; so another line
> >should be running at approx. 130 deg. east long. Which cuts through
> >Australia. Possibly this wasn't explicitely stated at the time, and
> >anyway they were still a long way off this 'other side of the world'.
> >What mattered was the line in the Atlantic.
> >
> >Peter S.
> >
> >--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@h...> wrote:
> > > There wasn't a pope's line this end of the world, only in the
> >atlantic, so
> > > i'm not sure how that fits in. I hope to have more deatils when i
> >can get a
> > > colleague in Canberra to visit, once the crowds die down.
> > > It's a social history museum, so has Oz inventions like the motor
> >mower and
> > > the rotary clothes line, besides all important icon's like Phar
> >Lap's heart
> > > (tho Phar Lap as a kiwi horse!).
> > >
> > > B
> > >
> > > >From: michael donner <m@...>
> > > >Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > > >To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > > >Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] museum map
> > > >Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:53:22 -0500
> > > >
> > > >looks fantastic
> > > >
> > > >i wonder if they deliberately made it from an east timorese point
> >of view
> > > >
> > > >also how did they deliver on the popes line promise
> > > >
> > > >like did it have a branch separating the spanish from the
> >portuguese in the
> > > >east indies too
> > > >or what about that
> > > >
> > > >m
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Here is an image of the mapping dreamscape at the new Canberra
> >museum.
> > > > >Photo from The Age, Sat 10/3/01, p13. North is pointing to the
> >lower left
> > > > >of the picture, the coastline being that of the Top End of the
> >Northern
> > > > >Territory.
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