Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] huge but forgotten ghost clave rediscovered 1732gb2sc1763
Date: Mar 21, 2005 @ 06:11
Author: Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
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From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:05 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] huge but forgotten ghost clave rediscovered
1732gb2sc1763
>
> it is well known that south carolina once believed she
> owned a long narrow stripe of western lands that
> extended her territory by half again its present
> breadth
> & indeed all the way to the mississippi river
> across more than 400 miles of what is now just the
> northernmost few leagues of georgia & alabama &
> mississippi
>
> & the reason this is so well known is that she ceded
> these lands to the federal government in 1787
> by a comical mistake due to geographic ignorance
> for tho she had as recently as 1763 really owned more
> western lands than any other colony at the time
> she actually had none at all left to give away by 1787
> & should rather have considered herself one of the 7
> original short stripe states from the start
> rather than a 7th original long stripe state
>
> & as luck would have it
> the american flag has evolved in such a way that it
> does correctly symbolize the 6 true original
> long stripe states
> or western land ceding
> states
> by the 6 long stripes
> &
> the 7 true original
> short stripe states
> or nonceding states
> including sc
> by the 7 short stripes
>
> can you imagine if the stars & stripes had had to have
> their red 7th or middle stripe as an additional long
> stripe running beneath the starry field
> instead of the short stripe this flag has almost
> always officially kept in the middle position to the
> right of the starry field
>
> but fortunately south carolina only wanted to be
> yet never really was
> a long stripe state
>
> & btw
> in case you have ever wondered exactly which stripes
> symbolize which states
> then i think we can say with confidence
> proceeding from top to bottom
> & of course factoring in their rank of admission to
> the union also
> first the 7 short upper stripes
> de pa nj md sc nh ri
> followed by the 6 long lower ones
> ga ct ma va ny nc
>
> & of course the 50 stars can be similarly identified
> but thats a lot easier & more straightforward
>
> for example the lone star state star is the 28th
> or the one keeping closest company with & in fact just
> to the left of the 4th short or md stripe
>
> but yikes i digress even from my digression
>
> for what has been almost if not completely forgotten
> is that sc once really did have not only western but
> also southern lands of enormous extent
> & all of them contiguous til 1732
> when some were cut out from the middle
> & most thus became a large exclave of the small
> remaining metropole we recognize today as sc
> til their own extinction in 1763
>
> & here is how it all happened
>
> the carolina charter of 1665 extended that province
> westward as far as the pacific & southward as far as
> the 29th parallel
>
> today this includes the northern half of florida
> plus most of the rest of the old south & southwest
> & indeed about a fifth of mexico
>
> at that time carolina outstripped even virginia as
> largest province
>
> & when the nc sc division was created in 1729
> sc then inherited title to all this southern part of
> carolina
> which was in fact the lions share of it
> & probably still the largest province
> since va had by then lost much of her north too
>
> when georgia was chartered in 1732
> overriding the part of south carolina that lay between
> the savannah & altamaha rivers
> as well as everywhere westward to the pacific between
> the latitudes of their respective northernmost &
> southernmost sources
> sc was thus left in possession of a legal exclave
>
> & this transcontinental exclave remained legally in
> effect everywhere west of the altamaha & of the
> seacoast to its south
> as far as the 29th parallel
>
> in other words it extended to the pacific from a
> northeast extremity around atlanta & a southeast
> extremity around daytona beach
> tho it is true that the spanish had an overlapping &
> better claim to all of florida & mexico
> & the french a similarly overlapping & better claim to
> all of louisiana
>
> but when the esfrgb tripartite treaty of paris
> on 10 feb 1763
> extinguished british claims west of the mississippi
> as well as spanish claims south of the 31st parallel
> eastward of the mississipi & new orleans
> the sc ghost exclave accordingly contracted in the
> west from the pacific back to the mississippi
> but was no longer overlapped in the east by the
> spanish claim to florida
>
> thus sc regained undisputed title to most of formerly
> spanish florida & retained most of what would become
> ga & al & ms
> at least for 3 months or so anyway
> until the board of trade enjoined her on 30 may 1763
> from selling land beyond the altamaha
>
> moreover the british government by 2 different acts of
> 7 oct 1763 then created the provinces of east & west
> florida
> on the one hand
> which extinguished all sc claim south of the 31st
> parallel
> & on the other hand
> added to georgia the territory west & south of the
> altamaha
> as far south as florida & as far west as the
> mississippi
> thus closing out the last of the sc clave territory
>
> all in a few swift strokes within 8 months
>
> but for 3 decades sc had a clave that included all of
> interstate 10 from coast to coast
> & generally hundreds of miles north & south of it
>
>
>
>
>
>
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