Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bidasoa-Txingudi
Date: Mar 08, 2001 @ 08:41
Author: Peter Smaardijk (Peter Smaardijk <peter.smaardijk@...>)
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michael donner wrote:

> great
> thank you again
> & i will keep working on the treaty text link
>
> also
> neither my french nor eyesight are very good
> but are you talking about the same st martin stone as referred to in
> http://www.esj-lille.fr/atelier/explo/EPOQUE/NEP_06.HTM
>
> perhaps i only misconstrued the meaning of the date 1375 in relation to the
> stone depicted
> but i also cant recall any of eefs that look anything like this
>
> m

Yes, they're talking about the same stone here, but I will check with the photograph I made and with
other sources, because there seems to be a difference between the stone in the picture on that site
and border stone 262. In the 1856 treaty it says about stone 262:

"At 530 metres of the previous sign, on the pass and at one metre of St. Martins stone which is 640
metres east of the summit of Léché and 1260 metres west of the Arlas peak."

The St. Martins stone is probably a very old one, but in 1856 they obviously decided to put another
marker beside it.

The treaty between the two valley was concluded in 1375. A payment of three cows is made to the
Roncal/Erronkari valley, for the right of the Barétounais to let their cattle graze on Roncalese
territory. The payment is made each year on July 13th. In the article it says that they have turned
it into a veritable touristical highlight, attracting some 3000 visitors.

Now for the scan of that little map, I ask you to be a little more patient still, because of some
technical problems (I made the scan, but there's obviously something wrong with it, as my browser
crashes when I try to open it...). But it's coming, I promise you.

Peter