Subject: boundary crosses again was Re: [BoundaryPoint] hey
Date: Jan 09, 2001 @ 09:14
Author: michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
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>Baarle enclaves are numbered separatley in the 1995 treaty if they are
>truly separate or, in the case of one, joined only by a point to another.
>Those that are joined to another piece of their motherland by a non-point,
>ie by a real width of land, however small (and it is down to a metre or so
>in one case), are not considered 2 enclaves but one.
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>Thus by the Dutch-Belgium example of Baarle, Jungholz IS an enclave, being
>joined by only a point.

very interesting indeed

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>In other words, for practical purposes it is, as not even a phone wire can
>pass from motherland to enclave without violation of the host's territory

so buttressed both by legal precedent & practical reality we may say that
jungholz is a true enclave & a true exclave
& not merely a pene anything
except when making some exceedingly fine & whimsical distinction

maybe we should save pene then for cases when we do get down to the
peninsular sort of narrow neck you described above
& when we are thus still penultimately shy of a true boundary cross point



i have been thinking more about the bengal boundary cross candidate too

it seems to me from all the description i have heard that it was most
probably situated originally where a survey line crossed a stream thalweg
or median line

this configuration is a most common occurrence among wet quadripoints generally

& allowing for the accretion or perhaps even avulsion in the course of the
stream that was also rumored to have occurred since the point was
established many decades ago
there is still no reason to believe the boundary cross was ever dismantled
as such
because even if the riverine determinant of the cross shifted position
& whether that sector legally migrated with the river or not
the survey transsect has most probably never budged
unless there was a new delimitation or demarcation
which would have been highly unlikely during this period of deliberate neglect

so unless you or someone can disabuse me of any of my admittedly
presumptive reasoning here
i am going to continue to believe in the probability that this is not just
a twin cross but a multi cross world

m


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