Subject: Re: Border-Pics II from closed Border-Point Budzisko PL-LT (PL-SU)
Date: Apr 22, 2003 @ 00:40
Author: Karolis B. ("Karolis B." <kbajoraz@...>)
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> its a pity, i didn't got a more clear foto of the details of the
metal plate on the post in ogrodniki..

I strongly believe that it's a metal plate with a globe with hammer
and sickle superimposed and wheats around it with a ribbon rolled
around them with "workers of the world unite" in 15 languages. As you
have guessed by now it of course is the USSR Coat of Arms.

> can it be, that they differed from soviet-republic to soviet-
republic?

NONONONONONO, how do you, comrade, dear question the homogenity of
Party, Peoples, and only then State, in the unbreakable Union of
freeborn republics??? Do you need some time in GULAG to sober up your
thoughts?!?!
:))

> in this case, there would have been a special soviet-lithuanian
plate on this post.
no way, they even abolished republic-specific birth certificates
after few years. Though it does seem that Soviet border markers do
fall at or very near tripoints of two republics and foreign country
(such as LTPLRU)

>
> chris

>
> Has the Soviet border markers stayed the same colourwise etc
after they were changed to Russian?

They have done nothing to the markers other than taken off the metal
soviet hammers and sickles and screwed on ALUMINUM Russian Federation
eagles with NO COUNTRY NAME.
see on Jan's site at
http://home.no.net/enklaver/borders/ltplru/ltplru_russian_bm.htm


Also use Chris' photos and Jan's site to compare the exact same one
marker at Budzisko/Kalvarija crossing. Unbelievable changes! It was
on the side of the road and now it is in the median! LTPL crossings
are interesting in that the different sides of the road are in
deifferent countries at the same spot in the road for a stretch.

Anyway, Chris, thatk you for these extremely interesting pictures!
Did you take them yourself??

>
> On Chris photos they are red/green.
>
> On this from FIRU they are also red/green
http://manila.djh.dk/finland/stories/storyreader$9, but could be an
pre-1991 photo.
>
> But this PLRU is probably post-1991 http://www.chem.tu-
freiberg.de/~herzog/Ostpreussen/Anreise.htm (also not the small real
border marker.)
>
> Jesper
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: chris schulz
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 7:30 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Border-Pics II from closed Border-
Point Budzisko PL-LT (PL-SU)
>
>
> Hi,
>
> today there exist two PL-LT-Border.Crossings,
> the second one was closed in this times end of August 1991.
>
> here come some pictures of the closed one.
>
> pic1: first announcement
> pic2: coming close to the border
> pic3: looking to lithuanian direction
> pic3-det: border-posts
> pic4: the empty border-guards house
>
> regards, chris
>
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