Subject: Re: Marine 4point? - Scandinavia
Date: Feb 23, 2003 @ 23:06
Author: Karolis B. <kbajoraz@yahoo.com> ("Karolis B. <kbajoraz@...>" <kbajoraz@...>)
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Both Brazil and New Zealand represent the "New World". And rules 
regarding stuff like this are a little different in the Old and the 
New worlds. New World countries are all natively Indian. Therefore I 
guess you could call them the Indian countries or something. And all 
the colonizers are immigrants or descendants thereof, and all of them 
have more or less of a melting pot population. In places like Europe 
and parts of Asia and Africa you have countries with mainly native 
population and those are the places of origin of the different 
ethnicities. So, geographicaly Scandivian peninsula is Scandinavian 
peninsula. But Scandivia is the region of the nativity of 
Scandinavians. Scandivians are various tribes which presently form 
the nations of Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Finnish Swedes. 
(Faroes, Greenland doesn't count because Danes there ar colonizers or 
descendants thereof). Scandinavia + Finland, Faroes, maybe even 
Greenland = the Nordic Countries. Ethnically Finland is Fino-Ugric, 
same as Estonia and Hungary. I've heard they originated in Central 
Europe and the Ugrics went south to become Hungrians and Fins went 
north to become Finnish (Soummi), dropping off the Estonians on the 
way. But perhaps this whole discussion is pointless, ethnicity in 
Europe is so complicated to define and so intertwined (even if we 
think that we are pure Lithuanians or Norwegians or Portugese, 
chances are we have a foreign ancestor or two - you couldn't have 
both blue and brown eyes in a pure nation) and then nobody originated 
in Europe anyway. This ambiguity and the need to belong to a group is 
what led us to come up with borders in the first place. But the fact 
is that there are no definite borders, standard languages, there are 
only smooth transitions, dialects with no defined beggining or end. I 
guess that's why we like borders, they have definite definitions in 
an undefinite world, and that's why we like to solve border questions 
so quickly, a border must be clear. But have you ever stood on a 
border and seen that left looked no different from right, that grass 
was the same on both sides.
So where do YOU draw the border...for Scandinavia, for...?