Subject: Re: New Border Ceuta/Espana and Marroc<br/>
Date: Jan 28, 2003 @ 21:29<br/>
Author: acroorca2002 &lt;orc@orcoast.com&gt; (&quot;acroorca2002 &lt;orc@...&gt;&quot; &lt;orc@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1902595216">--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;Jan S. Krogh&quot; <br/>
&lt;jan.krogh@t...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; Is it a neutral territory (green/white shaded area) we see <br/>
 </span></blockquote>between Morocco<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; and Ceuta?<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>well the cartoon says nobodys land in spanish<br/>
but neutral territory really means neithers land in latin<br/>
<br/>
such nobodys lands tho are a common feature of several of the <br/>
spanish clave situations<br/>
<br/>
beachhead standoff claves with permanent built in military buffer <br/>
zones even after de jure recognition<br/>
<br/>
so i think they resemble dmzs more than they do neutral <br/>
moresnet or the other condominiums<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
btw the term nobodys land is preferable to no mans land <br/>
a common mistranslation of it<br/>
since nobodys clearly excludes women & children too<br/>
<br/>
so unlike neithers land & no mans land<br/>
nobodys land is a complete vacuum of ownership<br/>
<br/>
& since nature abhors a vacuum<br/>
it is anyones & everyones land almost as soon as it is no ones<br/>
<br/>
but if it were merely neutral it couldnt possibly belong to everyone<br/>
since its neutrality restricts it from belonging to spain & morocco</div>