Subject: Re: Ober-Laudenbach Enclaves Hessen-Baden-Württemberg<br/>
Date: Dec 21, 2002 @ 20:18<br/>
Author: acroorca2002 &lt;orc@orcoast.com&gt; (&quot;acroorca2002 &lt;orc@...&gt;&quot; &lt;orc@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1212717778">--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;max23568 <br/>
&lt;max23568@y...&gt;&quot; &lt;max23568@y...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; &gt; it looks like 3 claves <br/>
&gt; &gt; including a counterclave<br/>
&gt; &gt; <br/>
&gt; &gt; or am i not seeing straight<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt;  <br/>
&gt; hi michael,<br/>
&gt; i posted both maps, with and without my marks, to give all of <br/>
 </span></blockquote>you the <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; chance to check out, how things are. but i saw just too <br/>
 </span></blockquote>enclaves and <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; a counterenclave. where did you find the third one?<br/>
&gt; bye, chris<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>hi chris<br/>
<br/>
we may just be counting the same 3 things in 2 different ways<br/>
<br/>
in your marked map <br/>
i see a relatively big sprawling clave surrounding the word ober <br/>
& it has a little counterclave embedded within it<br/>
well to the northeast of the word ober<br/>
& not far from center frame<br/>
<br/>
i count these as 2 claves in all<br/>
since i consider counterclaves to be just as much claves as <br/>
ordinary ones<br/>
<br/>
& the third clave i see isnt connected with these 2 <br/>
but is the little one at bottom center<br/>
just west of the word shannen<br/>
<br/>
so apparently that makes 3 for me but counts as only 2 for you<br/>
as i gather you may be thinking of the counterclave not as a thing <br/>
to count but as the absence or opposite of a thing <br/>
or in other words something that doesnt count<br/>
<br/>
but i think we must be seeing the same 3 things<br/>
a total of 3 entities<br/>
or dont you agree now<br/>
<br/>
bye m</div>