Subject: Re: 15 islands dumped by usa illegally<br/>
Date: Dec 20, 2002 @ 18:06<br/>
Author: acroorca2002 &lt;orc@orcoast.com&gt; (&quot;acroorca2002 &lt;orc@...&gt;&quot; &lt;orc@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1562520062">--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, Kevin Meynell <br/>
&lt;kevin@m...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; &gt;i wonder what the 100 icebound eskimos on wrangel say of it <br/>
 </span></blockquote>tho<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; &gt;when they are visited by an icebreaker every few years<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Another question I haven&#39;t seen answered is why the US would <br/>
 </span></blockquote>wish to <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; voluntarily give up sovereignty of territory, especially in these <br/>
 </span></blockquote>days of <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; EEZs etc..?<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>it appears from the preliminary indications we do have<br/>
that the usa gained or would have gained enormously from the <br/>
readoption of the island allocation line of 1867 in the maritime <br/>
territorial treaty of 1990<br/>
<br/>
so these 8 islands <br/>
which were already untenable or dubious anyway<br/>
would have been a small price for the usa to pay for such gain<br/>
<br/>
until evidently the duma recognized & called the game<br/>
aha<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
so i would be fascinated to learn if the secret baker <br/>
shevardnadze deal really trumped the duma & legally finalized <br/>
the treaty anyway <br/>
or not<br/>
<br/>
& what secret quid pro quo might have been in it for the soviets <br/>
&or for shevardnadze<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
but there may also be another clue in the following observation <br/>
of the dissenting american senators<br/>
linked in message 8415<br/>
<br/>
the state dept frequently regards legitimate american interests <br/>
as obstacles to the accomplishment of its grandiose plans for <br/>
an international order based upon the subordination of global <br/>
sovereignty to a global governmental regime<br/>
<br/>
wow<br/>
& i would like to know how the senators got here too <br/>
i mean from any of the 8 disregarded islands<br/>
whew<br/>
not to mention how the state dept got there<br/>
to its grandiose plans</div>