Subject: Re: ca-nl
Date: Dec 07, 2002 @ 10:42
Author: anton_zeilinger <anton_zeilinger@hotmail ("anton_zeilinger <anton_zeilinger@...>" <anton_zeilinger@...>)
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Hello!

Well, I don't believe that it is still Dutch territory, on another
homepage it says:

"The Canadian government temporarily ceded the maternity room at the
Ottawa Civic Hospital to the Netherlands so that Margriet could be
born a Dutch citizen on Dutch soil."

http://www.capcan.ca/about_canadas/festivities/child_is_born_e.html

So I would guess that it was Dutch just for a day (or even less).
On the official homepage of the royal house of the Netherlands it
says:

"The Princess was born in Ottawa, Canada, where the family had been
living since June 1940, after the German occupation of the
Netherlands. The premises on which Princess Margriet was born were
placed temporarily outside the jurisdiction of Canadian law so that
she would have exclusively Dutch, and not dual, nationality."

http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/UK/royal_house/prinsesmargriet.html

So there we have it! It seems that it wasn't even official Dutch
territory, and the princess just received Dutch citizenship for being
the daughter of Dutch parents. But whose jurisdiction was the ward
under? None?

This is similar to suite 212 in Claridge´s Hotel in London, which was
declared Yugoslav territory by Churchill in 1945 so that the Yugoslav
crown prince could be born on Yugoslav territory.

http://www.royalfamily.org/family/hrhcpa_bio.htm

btw, only countries with Anglo-Saxon law (UK, USA, Australia, ...)
have citizenship by territory, i.e. if you are born there you are a
citizen. The citizenship of countries with Germanic and/or Romanic
law traditions (Germany, Austria, Netherlands, France ...) is
acquired by descent, according the law of the respective country. For
instance, to become Austrian one of your parents has to be Austrian.
Germany only requires a German grandparent.

Hope I could clear it up a little!

Greetings,
AntonZ


--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "I M Naanu <imnaanu@y...>"
<imnaanu@y...> wrote:
> Fascinating!
>
> Is that maternity ward still Dutch teritory? The implications are
> that- if Nederlands follows the US principle of 'granting
citizenship
> to all those born on American soil', any child born in this room
> would be Dutch at birth.
>
> Please clarify.
>
> IMN
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "anton_zeilinger"
> <anton_zeilinger@h...> wrote:
> > Netherlands exclave in Canada:
> >
> >
>
html://www.craigmarlatt.com/craig/canada/provinces&territories/netherl
> > ands.html
> >
> > (long link, you might have to cut and paste the second line)
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > AntonZ