whoops
i still think victor is right
but doug could be right too
as my alleged usgs mon 256 may only be a trompe loeil 255
or a usgs error
for there is after all an unmistakeable 256 a mile farther west
whoops
in fact everybody might be right including the geocachers & the
postcard identification
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "acroorca2002" <orc@o...> wrote:
> i believe the goodly doctor has it right
> because the usgs topo indicates monument 255 is missing
> from the mxus line
> where it should fall about a mile to the east
> & the map also shows 256 is in the location shown on the
> postcard
>
> so the numerical identification supposedly made by the
postcard
> could well be mistaken
> or could have gotten mistransmitted somewhere along the way
>
> & the geocachers also might easily have found a working
> replacement monument 255 in the proper place
> or might have mistaken some other monument like say a 255a
> for the original 255 that is so clearly numbered in victors
photos
>
> besides i think the monument on the postcard no longer exists
> & victors 255 was probably imported to its present location
from
> its original location a mile away
>
> so the mysterious transformation in both the appearance &
> location of the postcard rock & victors rock is better explained
by
> the fact that they are simply different rocks
>
> yes both have been retired from active service
> but thats all they have in common
> & no need to confuse them just for that reason
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray" <doug@d...> wrote:
> >
> > A page over that the fun Geocaching site (great concept -- we
> border freaks should leave little treasures at tri-points for other
> border freaks) revealed a nice selection of USMX border
markers
> -- and others.
> >
> >
>
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=40654
> >
> > There are some of USMX #255 -- very odd, as there is a big
> fence and you see only the top. Not at all like the #255 in
Victor's
> photos #1 and #3. Could it be the top of the jumbo maker in
> photo #2?
> >
> > http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/724020_300.jpg
> > http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/724020_200.jpg
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: acroorca2002
> > To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 5:09 AM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: USMX - The elusive marker
#255
> >
> >
> > this mon 255 is quite interesting & unusual
> > in that it was deliberately misplaced
> > & i believe few others like it will be found anywhere
> > so congrats are in order for finding such a rarity
> >
> > but the other type you mention is quite common
> >
> > it is called an indirect marking under some circumstances
> > usually when occurring in pairs or series
> > as is often done in europe & on the wet parts of caus
> > & is called a witness monument under other circumstances
> > usually when there is only one of a kind
> > as is more common within the usa
> >
> > but i wonder if anyone can point to any mates at all for mon
> 255
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Victor Cantore <drpotatoes@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > ugggh it took me a long time to finally locate this
> > > marker and the reason for that is that its not on the
> > > border at all but about 50 meters in US territory.
> > > It's at the San Ysidro Port of Entry (SYPOE) here in
> > > san diego.
> > >
> > > My guess to why it's not on the actual border itself
> > > is due to expansion at sypoe it had to be moved since
> > > at one point it was on the line. Also looks like it
> > > isn't the original judging from the post card
> > > attachement either.
> > >
> > > it's placed directly at the end of the trolley tracks
> > > but surprising easy to just walk past and miss. and
> > > someone obviously took offense to the marker's claims
> > > that it marks the limit of mexican territory.
> > >
> > > There's another similar marker in Baarle, in that it
> > > doesn't sit exactly on the line but rather denotes the
> > > location nearby of an international boundary. I wonder
> > > how many of those there are in the world my hunch is
> > > that it is more common than i'd like to think.
> > >
> > > vc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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