Subject: Re: re bzgtmx<br/>
Date: Oct 23, 2002 @ 22:12<br/>
Author: acroorca2002 (&quot;acroorca2002&quot; &lt;orc@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-124337140">my mind is still swimming on this one<br/>
so here are a few more strokes<br/>
<br/>
first<br/>
since the referenda are scheduled for the last week of november<br/>
one optimistic projection could find doug on location right there <br/>
for any ribbon cutting or stake driving that might naturally occur<br/>
whether by chance or by design <br/>
on or about the turning of the new year<br/>
just to put it as optimistically & festively as possible<br/>
& since this was also by chance his own express target point <br/>
<br/>
second etc & perhaps more realistically<br/>
since mexico & belize are not known to have differed <br/>
about the position of the short northsouth survey sector of bzmx<br/>
separating the mexican state of campeche <br/>
from the belizean district of orange walk<br/>
a line which still appears until now at least to have terminated at <br/>
the same aguas turbias reference marker<br/>
whether expressly or implicitly thus i dont know<br/>
then <br/>
unless mexico also agrees here to accept a similarly minuscule <br/>
land cession or concession from belize<br/>
the bzgtmx tripoint could well still remain fixed at aguas turbias<br/>
while bzgt terminates 200m to the east as planned<br/>
thereby producing a short territorial overlap <br/>
& projecting an unnegotiated eastwest sector of bzgt<br/>
directly west from gtne<br/>
upon which bz would actually lie directly north of gt<br/>
<br/>
this would be in the mirror image of how nm lies due north of tx <br/>
between conmok & txnw<br/>
or of how mt lies due north of sd<br/>
between mtsdwy & mtse<br/>
both in the usa<br/>
<br/>
in fact now that i think about it a little more from that experience<br/>
this slight overlap scenario seems almost more likely <br/>
than a change in the tripoint position <br/>
even if bzgt2002 is approved<br/>
since why would bz & mx then want all that extra diplomatic work<br/>
for such little effect<br/>
something on the order of 200m x 10km <br/>
of spontaneous jungle transfer<br/>
<br/>
well<br/>
that is not nothing <br/>
2 or 3 km sq<br/>
but lets not completely rule the old aguas turbias marker out yet<br/>
<br/>
& finally<br/>
if aguas turbias does become tripoint history<br/>
& just another point upon gtmx<br/>
as i initially just supposed it would<br/>
then the once adjacent belizean aguas turbias national park<br/>
which was named after the formerly presumed tripoint<br/>
will become completely disconnected from its source <br/>
& may need a name change just to avoid embarrassment<br/>
for celebrating something that would no longer even be belizean<br/>
& for reminding folks of such unwarranted & gratuitous sacrifice <br/>
of once real belizean soil <br/>
not to guatemala but to mexico</div>