I totally agree - I oculd have written this myself.

But this raises another question. Tripoint: Malawi - Mozambique - Tanzania at the bank of Lake Malawi. Is it wet or dry? I would say half wet, but that would mean it has an area, wouldn't it? So the tripoint (or any other tripoint) is neither dry or wet, as they donot exist.

Jesper

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From: David Mark

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Subject: Re: Fw: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Can a point also be a border?

The border does not exist, in about the same sense that a new object "cuptable" does not come into existence when I put my cup on the table. The cup touches the table. Canada touches the US, for 8893 km. David On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen wrote: > > > A border point's size is 0 x 0, because otherwise who's point it is? So does a point excist? > > The dimentions of a border line is 0 x length, for CAUS 8893 km x 0. So what is the size of CAUS, 8893 x 0 is 0. So CAUS doesn't excist? Tell that to the border guards! Damn, I should have tried that in Berlin 12 years ago, perhaps I will try arguing with the guards between the Koreans. > > Most European border markers show a border line, but the line is like 1 cm thick, but in fact that it way too wide. > > Well face it, border lines and border point actually do not physically excist, and are just imaginary. > > That's why I like borders, there is nothing there, but the nothing means alot in most cases: different currencies, languages, laws, signs, number plates, flags, perhaps time zones, alphabets, etc. > > I like spotting the excact point, where is all changes. > > Jesper > > PS Are others also experiencing problems sending to BP? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: acroorca2002 > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:24 PM > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Can a point also be a border? > > > well now you have done it doctor > put your finger on our bp g spot > nice analysis too > > & the extreme beauty of it is that unless you admit the real existence > of boundaries like nmut & azco within the azconmut point > you will be forced by degrees to abandon all the rest of the illusion > of physical reality as well > because if there is not any reality to a point then how could there be > any reality to a line > which is just a locus of points > > & if not a line then how a boundary > which is the further physical elaboration of this growing illusion > & if no boundaries then how is individuation anything but an illusion > too > & if no individuation then we must be not only a single entirety then > even a single divinity > > & since precisely this is punctological reality > evidently unless busted > i would go right ahead & defy the illusion of so called reality > or certainly never be cowed by it again > > but just to keep our entire perception of the world from collapsing > all at once > yes yes yes of course a point can be a border > > m > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "drpotatoes" <drpotatoes@h...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've been wondering about this one for a while, and since I'm a > > newbie to the the group it's quite possible that the subject has > come > > up at some point and I just don't know about it. If so please let me > > know what post it is under. > > > > The question I pose is this: can a point, more specifically a > > quadrapoint (quinta or even more), also be a border? Take Four > > Corners, USA for example. Is it correct to say that New Mexico and > > Utah 'border' one another? Or Arizona and Colorado? > > > > This is as much of a geometry question as it is geography. So I > > looked up a few basic terms. The term 'point', in geometry, > according > > to ask.com, is this: > > > > "A point is one of the basic terms in geometry. We may think of a > > point as a "dot" on a piece of paper. We identify this point with a > > number or letter. A point has no length or width, it just specifies > > an exact location." > > > > Ok fine, a point has no width or length. So then I searched > > for 'border' and 'boundary' in the dictionary. > > > > According to dictionary.com, one of the definitions for 'border' is: > > > > "The line or frontier area separating political divisions or > > geographic regions; a boundary" > > > > also > > > > "To lie along or adjacent to the border of: Canada borders the > United > > States" > > > > and a search for 'boundary' produces: > > > > "That which indicates or fixes a limit or extent, or marks a bound, > > as of a territory; a bounding or separating line; a real or > imaginary > > limit" > > > > also > > > > " the line or plane indicating the limit or extent of something > [syn: > > bound, bounds] 2: a line determining the limits of an area [syn: > > edge, bound]" > > > > So clearly 'border' or 'boundary' is a line (or arguably a vertical > > plane into space considering a nation's right to control it's own > > airspace). If I remember correctly from my 10th grade geometry class > > (which i took while I living in New Mexico, so I have been thinking > > about this one for 10+ years) that a line is a series of points and > > can't be one single point by definition. > > > > If a point has no width, then do New Mexico and Utah even touch at > > all? If so, would it then be on almost a microscopic or molecular > > level at which they do touch? If it is determined that they do touch > > (which I am not so certain at this point, no pun intended!), would > it > > be correct to say that the two states 'border' one another? Or to > say > > that they just meet at one point? But a point can't be a border, > > since a border is defined as a line. > > > > So I ask you, can a point be a border? > > > > Victor > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >
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