Dear BP-friends,
Your comments made one thing claer to me: I have to make a translation of
what I wrote on my site.
Gosh !, my English is horrible, I prefer German, sicher !!
I'll give it a try, the next months, but first I'll give you some
explecations that might help to judge if they are international ghost
stones:
The Aken stones (in a few hours I can show you four of them on my site, so
try tomorrow) marked a kind of Kingdom scince 1338, so they are ghost stones
as well ! In those days there were very many little Kingdoms.
The Prussian stones are not what you expect them to be: they have nothing to
do with Prussia. They marked a line in the "Preuswald", and that's only the
name of a wood. The Preuswald was divided in two parts: one part was for the
poor people: they were allowed to chop trees and to hunt on animals there.
The other part was for the Emporer of Aken to do the same thing there. So no
real ghosts.
The Moresnet stones are real ghosts. Btw: I did all the visits and made all
the pictures together with Eef, so the pictures on my site might be the same
as on his site.
The stones in the part Belgium-Germany are all 'alive stones', and were
places after the convention of Versailles.
The great part is yet to come!: the stones of the former border (1816 -1919)
Germany - Belgium, about 100 stones. Most of these ghost stones are still
there, in the middle of Belgium, indicating the old border. It's my purpose
to picture them all. The first results should be there in june 2002.
When the first results are ready, I'll let you know....
It'll be on my site www.drielanden.tk or www.grenspalen.tk , what is the
same as the URL Harry gave you.
Kind regards, Jannis Deeleman
----- Original Message -----
From: "acroorca2002" <orc@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:53 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: More ghost stones
> well ok i can understand that the prussian & aken stones might be
> international ghosts
> so i would like to see the maps for those
> or some other confirmation in the text etc
>
> & of course all 60 moresnet rocks could be counted as ghost
> internationals
> even while the very idea of international often seems a little shaky
> in this whole greater german area
>
> m
>
> btw that is most impressive how jannis managed to photograph at least
> 54 of the 60
>
> & since some of those are already fallen
> i wonder what the story is on the missing 6
>
> if they are gone then they arent really missing from the collection
> are they
>
> & i know eef missed a few moresnets too but his pages are down now so
> i cant compare if they were the same few
>
> in any case this is interesting & exciting because it comes very close
> to a first known complete collection of anything
>
> the only other known candidate for completion is delaware
> but for a single rock that was inadvertently overlooked by the
> collector at the university of delaware website
>
> so this one could go right down to the wire folks
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "acroorca2002" <orc@o...> wrote:
> > thanx harry
> >
> > & can you or anyone else who understands dutch tell us if any of
> > these old stones shown on this site are actually standing on former
> > international borders
> >
> > for that has been the focus of the ghost chasing at least til now
> >
> > if they are standing on present borders they are simply old stones &
> > not really ghosts at all but fully alive
> >
> > & if they have been displaced or arent standing at all
> > then they also arent really ghost stones but rather completely
> > defunct as markers
> >
> > so you may have brought us to the brink of some new discoveries here
> > perhaps many
> > but i am still trying to discern what they are
> >
> > m
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Harry ten Veen" <pa8km@a...> wrote:
> > > More ghost stones on this excellent site:
> > > http://home.westbrabant.net/~deeleman/index.html
> > > look for " VERVOLG nieuw! "
> > >
> > > Jannis Deeleman promissed more pictures by the 22th. He is in
> debt!
> > >
> > > gl
> > > Harry ten Veen
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "acroorca2002"
> > > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 5:23 PM
> > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Real Help to Bad News
> > >
> > > > ps
> > > > the really earthshaking news for me today is that all 128 of
> > denmarks
> > > > prospective international ghost stones have melted down to
> > nothing
> > > > leaving only the usa 2 still on the board
>
>
>
>
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