peter thanx for this roundabout confirmation that the heirlemaor quintipoint is indeed very probably sextenary or 6th order & thus not a credible rival for the tertiary or 3rd order glhemaokpa quintipoint in its ongoing if still precarious tenure as global maxipoint apparent which was my point for you have made it better than i could have m
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., michael donner <orc@o...> wrote:
> (...) heleta irissari lekorne makea & orzaize turns out like all
> french multimunicipal points to be nested in a daunting succession of
> subdivisional entities starting with the administrative region of
> aquitaine on the subnational or secondary level & continuing thru the
> department of pyrenees atlantiques on the tertiary level & the
> province of pays basque on the quaternary level if i got it right &
> also possibly even the subprovincial or quintenary entity of basse
> navarre so that the municipalities constituting this quintipoint are
> technically all the way down to sextenary entities & thus the basque
> quintipoint tho remarkable is evidently no match for glhemaokpa the
> tertiary quintipoint of florida that is still global maxipoint
> apparent (...)
>
> Not quite. The Basque subdivisions are not official at all in the
> North Basque Country (although very much alive among the population).
> In France, subdivisions *generally* work as follows:
> 1. Country
> 2. Region
> 3. Departement
> 4. Arrondissement
> 5. Canton
> 6. Municipality
> There are exceptions. The most notable exception is that cantons are
> dependent on the number of inhabitants. So a canton can contain
> several municipalities, consist of only one municipality, or one
> municipality contains several cantons!
> For the arrondissements, this exception exists in Paris, Marseilles,
> and Lyon. These cities are divided into arrondissements. It is just
> strange that Paris is a departement on it's own, but the other two
> are not. Equally strange is it that at least in Paris (I don't know
> about the other two), an arrondissement is not divided into cantons,
> but quarters. Obviously, no municipalities here (the municipality and
> the departement are one and the same here).
>
> The Basque division is into seven provinces. Four of them are in
> Spain and are official Spanish provinces too. The other three (in the
> French republic) don't have any official status whatsoever. Even the
> North Basque Country has no status (yet?) in France. Most of it is
> the arrondissement Baiona/Bayonne, but part of it belongs to the
> arrondissement Oloron-Sainte-Marie.
>
> And to make it more complicated still: Some Basques consider Navarre
> (also a Spanish province and region) and Lower Navarre (in France) as
> one single province. Something it was in 1512 for the last time (if I
> remember correctly). It then used to be called the "Merindad"
> (subdivision of a province) of "Over the Passes", a designation for
> the part of Navarre that was on the other side of the Pyrenees. It is
> interesting that in the early 16th century, Upper Navarre was annexed
> by the Spanish kingdom, but not Lower Navarre. It was because of this
> the crown of Navarre was attached to this northern part of the former
> kingdom. When this part became part of France, the kings of France
> got the title "King of Navarre", too. This is why the kings of France
> had the title "King of France and Navarre". Funny if you consider the
> small area of Lower Navarre, compared to the rest of France. The
> old "parliament of Navarre" was based in Pau, nowadays capital of the
> departement of the Atlantic Pyrenees, but not in the Basque country,
> let alone in Navarre (this area is called is Bearn).
>
> Peter S.