How about a brand new one: The Southern Territories! Just think, no more long line ups for we Canadians looking for cheap shoes and you Americans looking for cheap CD's. Or perhaps we could form one big country: USC. Hmmm... that's been taken. Dominion of North America?

Wait: we'll be the kings of marketing and create: Jumbo: The World's Biggest Country.

Nothing like a dream...

Doug

Prime President, Jumbo

-------Original Message-------

From: bjbutler@...

Date: Thursday, August 02, 2001 05:54:06 PM

To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: More lax than US-Canada?

And which existing territory should America supercede? The Northwest Territories, Yukon, or Nunavut? BJB --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray, StockPhotosOnline" <dmurray@s...> wrote: > > > Or rather, America could become either a) the 11th Province or b) the 3rd Territory. > > Regarding the Canada-US border south of Vancouver... I drove along it last Sunday, from the Algergrove crossing to the Peace Gardens. Much of the border along Zero Avenue is completely hidden... lots of bush that even surrounds boundary markers. You can see them every once in a while poking through the shrubbery. I'm sure I saw the knights who say "Ni!" poking around the shrubbery as well. But I digress... > > No sign of lasers and cameras, although they do exist (I've seen pics of cameras along the PQ-VE border. But nothing to the naked eye here -- no wires, poles, clearings, etc, that could be surveillance gear. Although, perhaps it is very well hidden, hence being surveillance gear. > > Cheers, > > Doug > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: bjbutler@b... > Date: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:26:05 PM > To: BoundaryPoint@y... > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: More lax than US-Canada? > > Yeah, I wish Canada would just wise up, maybe even become the 51st > state, and then we could stop all this nonsense. > > BJB > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Dallen Timothy <dtimothy@a...> wrote: > > Jesper, Randy and others, > > When did Norway and Iceland become part of the Schengen group? > They're not > > part of the EU as yet. > > > > I have a couple of pictures of the Monaco-France border at three > different > > locations. I'll try to get them made into prints, scanned and sent > out to > > everyone. Actually this border is easy to spot if you're looking > for it. > > > > Regarding the US-Canada border. It isn't as lax as most people > think it is. > > While it doesn't have the fences and walls as in the case of the US- > Mexico > > border, it is heavily 'fortified' otherwise. Laser sensors all > along the > > border assist border patrol agents in finding illegal crossers, > including > > bears, moose, and elk--although the latter are usually not > arrested. When > > the lasers are tripped, ground patrol vehicles are dispatched to > search for > > crossers, and in more remote locations, helicopters are sent out. > If a > > person crosses the border away from an official crossing point and > doesn't > > report at the nearest immigration office, he/she could be fined > thousands of > > dollars and spend years in prison. Likewise, laws and regulations > create a > > rather difficult barrier as well, especially for people whose homes > and > > yards are bisected by the border. While there are few actual > physical > > barriers on the US-Canada border, there are significant legal > barriers, > > laser sensors, and patrol vehicles and personnel that make it a > fairly > > fortified boundary. > > Brian Butler mentioned his recent trip to the International Peace > Garden. > > I've done quite a lot of research in that area, and it's hard to > believe the > > terrible headaches that are created on a daily basis for the park > > superintendents and personnel managers--they're constantly fighting > legal > > battles, immigration-related personnel problems, country-specific > > environmental conservation issues, insurance claims, binational tax > > problems, etc. This is why the Peace Garden is unable to keep a > > superintendent on staff for more than a few years at a time--too > much legal > > fighting over and along the US-Canada border. From the tourist's > > perspective it is a peace garden, but from the organization's > perspective it > > is a constant battle--visitors don't see that side of it. > > > > Anyway, just a few observations on my part. > > > > Dallen > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen [mailto:jesniel@i...] > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:10 AM > > To: BoundaryPoint@y... > > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] More lax than US-Canada? > > > > > > > > Randy, > > > > Within the Schengen countries (Iceland, Finland, Norway, Sweden, > Denmark, > > Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Luxembourg, Austria, Spain, > Portugal, > > Italy, Greece) as a rule there are no guarded borders, and you can > travel > > freely crossing the border whereever you want. > > > > Most miniature countries like Monaco, the Vatican etc do also not > have > > guarded borders. In fact it should be quite hard even to spot the > Monacon > > border! Can anybody produce a picture? > > > > Jesper > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Randy Finder <mailto:naraht@D...> > > To: BoundaryPoint@y... <mailto:BoundaryPoint@y...> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:04 PM > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] More lax than US-Canada? > > > > I was reading the article on the fences on InPk and the to be built > > on InBa. It hit me that at least to USAians, the other end of the > > scale is the US-Canadian border. However that still has guards. Are > > there other borders (perhaps inside the EU?) where the borders are > > treated more lightly and less well guarded than USCA? > > > > Randolph Finder > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > > < href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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