Subject: Re: Berlin exclaves revisited: Erlengrund, Fichtewiese
Date: Jun 15, 2001 @ 12:00
Author: Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Mats Hessman <Mats@l...> wrote:
> Colleagues,
>
> On a recent trip to Germany I had the opportunity to spend
> a day on exclave archeology in Berlin.
>
> As you are all doubtless aware, and as has been discussed here
> by Arif Samad and others, there existed at one time twelve
> West-Berlin exclaves within DDR, as shown on this map:
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/Book_ExclaveOverview.jpg
>
> Key:
> 1: Erlengrund
> 2: Fichtewiese
> 3: Lasszinswiesen
> 4: Falkenhagener Wiese
> 5: Finkenkrug
> 6: Grosse Kuhlake
> 7: The three Boettcherberg Exclaves
> 8: Steinstuecken
> 9: Wueste Mark
> 10: Nuthewiesen
> E: The pene-exclave of Eiskeller
>
> I went to take a look at what signs can be spotted of the previous
> exclavic situation at Erlengrund and Fichtewiese.
>
> As you recall Erlengrund and Fichtewiese were used for small
> summer cottages, and were run by two different garden clubs.
>
> Access to the exclaves were, as we are used to, rather surreal
> as the cottage-owners had to ring a bell at a door in the Wall,
> ask for admittance, and then walk over the otherwise off limits
> border zone to their cottages.
>
> This is wonderfully shown on this picture, that has been shown
> previously in this group:
> http://www.dieberlinermauer.com/berlinwallhome/wall25/wall25.html
>
> And here is an aerial photo of the area from the same source:
> http://www.dieberlinermauer.com/berlinwallhome/wall26/wall26.html
> The door with the bell would be at the bottom of the picture. The
> footpath, clearly visible, passes by a control post where the East
> German Border Police would check the access permissions, and then
> the path forks off to Erlengrund to the right and Fichtewiese
straight
> ahead.
>
> A more detailed map can be found here:
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/Book_Erlengrund_overlayed.jpg
>
> The dotted black line is the footpath, and the blue markings are
mine
> and intended to show how the following photographs were taken.
>
> Maps are from T Book, "Angerdorf och Exklav", Vaxjo, 1984,
> and are published here with the authors permission, by the way.
>
> Picture 01
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_egfw01_annotated.jpg
> This shows the view of the two paleo-exclaves from a point within
> the borderzone to the left of the footpath.
>
> Picture 03
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_egfw03_annotated.jpg
> This shows the spot where the door and the doorbell used to be.
> WB = West-Berlin, SBZ = East Germany (Sowjetische Besatzungszone).
> I have tried to mark the line where I believe the border was.
> Input from y'all is most appreciated.
>
> Picture 06
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_egfw06_annotated.jpg
> This shows a stone looking remarkably like a boundary marker to
> my amateur eyes. Supposing it is a boundary marker, again I have
> tried to trace the border. Can anyone tell me if it actually IS a
> boundary marker, and if so, what do the numbers mean?
>
> Picture 07
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_egfw07_annotated.jpg
> This, I'm pretty sure, is probably not a boundary marker, but a
pillar
> where a metal plate stating DDR territory was fastened. There were
> several such concrete pillars nearby. I have read somewhere that
> these pillars usually stood a meter or so inside DDR territory.
Again,
> a tentative borderline of mine is shown.
>
> Picture 08
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_egfw08_annotated.jpg
> Another view of the two exclaves. I have also indicated where I
> believe the guard house was situated.
>
> Picture 10
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_egfw10_annotated.jpg
> Here is a picture looking the other way, into West-Berlin. You can
> see the path branching off to the left to Erlengrund. Fichtewiese
> is right behind us.
>
>
> Mats