--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., David Mark <dmark@g...> wrote:
> Sorry to be dense here, but I don't follow. I see one prominent
border on
> the scanned map, running southeast-northwest and with boundary
markers
> 1021, 1024-1026, 1031-32 (around "Drei Steine"-- three stone, is
that the
> trinational point??)
I think Drei Steine is the tripoint, although there aren't three
stones there, but at benl boundary marker no. 1.
The numbers 193 and higher are the old Dutch-Prussian boundary
markers (no. 1 was near Schengen and is now on the defrlu "tripoint",
the last number, 862, is at Driland near Overdinkel, the old tripoint
the Netherlands-Prussia-Hanover, now the place the North Rhineland-
Westphalia - Lower Saxony border touches the denl border). The bede
boundary is of a later date (the Eastern Cantons of Belgium belonged
to Prussia when the Dutch-Prussian boundary was drawn), and that's
why they have a different numbering (the "thousand"-numbers).
, then running north with numbers like 193L, 194E.
> Is that the German border, with Germany occupying the northeastern
part of
> the scanned image? So strange that they do not symbolize all
> international boundaries the same way, or mark country names!
The reason for that is that the be parts are taken from be topo maps,
and the nl parts from nl topo maps. This is why the benl boundary
looks different on this German map than the German borders.
> Does the Netherlands-Belgium border run west from "Drei Steine" with
> markers Gp1, Gs2a, Gp2?
Yes
>
> And what is the thing you refer to as a "salient", what country
does it
> belong to?
It is the long and narrow strip of Germany at bdy. markers 1024-1026.
Peter S.
>
> David
>
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Brendan Whyte wrote:
>
> > Here is a nice German 1:25k map of our favourite tript.
> >
> > For those going on the September point-crawl, may I suggest
taking the road
> > from Aachen that heads west in the top of the picture, turning
south just
> > before the rial line, going under the line and then paralleling
it up the
> > hil towards the tript.
> > A road turning south off this passes over the rial line in a
small bridge a
> > few 100 m before the rail line gowen into a tunnel. This bridge
ends in some
> > fields, so you would need to park before it.
> > There is a lovely walk up a hedged fenceline past the words "Im
Paaf" on
> > the map, as it heads towards the strange salient in the BEDe
boundary just
> > south of the tript. The fields here are separated by a hedgelike
linear
> > copse, with a foottrack in the middle. It emerges at the border
on the
> > northern corner of the salient, where there is a boundary stone
and a small
> > turnstile to allow access from the foottrack along the BeDe
border to cross
> > directly over the salient. A similar turnstile interupts the
small fence on
> > the southern side of the salient as the path enters the woods
again. The SW
> > half of the salient, the end half of it, is actually in the woods
too,
> > unlike as depicted on the map. Thus the field forming the salient
runs only
> > halfway into it, before ending in a fence and trees. You have to
walk
> > another 100m along the imaginery extension of the field fenceline
into the
> > woods to reach the pillars at the end of the salient, one at each
corner.
> > Returning to the turnstiles, you can then follow the fence to the
tripoint
> > along a pleasant track, Belgian woods on one side, German pasture
on the
> > other.
> > You can return to your vehicle, part way down the hill from the
tripoint,
> > along a German track between German woods and pasture. You cannot
drive all
> > the way to the tripoint up the German side, but have to stop at
the final
> > road junction a few 100m short.
> >
> > Another option is to take a train fomr Aachen to the first stop
into
> > Belgium, around Moresnet, and walk up fomr that side and down
again. Then
> > you can go under and over the border!
> >
> > BW
> >
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