what a treat
many thanxxx
now i hardly even have to go to europe in 2008 as last
promised
& i also see we do very much agree here that the
tripoint is at the absolute summit point
but that our 50 meter horizontal difference at google
earth is just owing to our differing degrees of
confidence in google earth in this particular function
& oddly it is i who am the more generally trusting one
this time
for the first time
after the long train of disabusements of supposed
accuracy we have just been enjoying at google earth
but on balance i must agree with you rather than me
in the present case
as well as with real reality rather than virtual
reality generally
for i still trust your personal memory better than
googles
--- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase <jesper@...>
wrote:
> <http://www.kranjska-gora.si/index.php?i=305>
> http://www.kranjska-gora.si/index.php?i=305 - last
> image - click on it. Nice
> 360 degree panorma.
>
> The tp rock is behind the people with the three
> flags. The girl may be
> sitting on it, but I think it may just be the fence.
>
> On Rolf's long distance shot you can see the antenna
> (the right one), you
> may see the wooden hut below the antenna. And the
> symbolic tp monument
>
(http://www.sentierinatura.it/EasyNET/Frameset.asp?Code=sentierinatura
>
<http://www.sentierinatura.it/EasyNET/Frameset.asp?Code=sentierinatura&Page=
> FormDOC&IDD=1408&FROMSTART=TRUE>
> &Page=FormDOC&IDD=1408&FROMSTART=TRUE)
>
> Strangely on second last 360 degree panorama Tromeja
> photo along ITSI (you
> see the last markers) at
>
http://jakelj.kranjska-gora.si/panorama/poletje/InternetnaStran/Uvod.html
> the antenna is missing...
>
> Jesper
> --
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>
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> Sendt: 29. september 2006 00:06
> Til: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Emne: Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] atitsi
>
>
>
> yes i can certainly understand & agree if you dont
> trust the google earth mouse probe altitude values
> per
> se
> nor the exact geocoord registry
> nor the obviously terrible border overlays
> but i think the visual representation of the terrain
> itself in virtual 3d may be the only or the most
> nearly reliable feature of this program
> especially when used in conjunction with the mouse
> probe to generally corroborate the vertical
> relationships
> & indeed it is the one thing about google earth i
> might hang my hat on with some confidence
>
> my difficulty with interpolating from this panoramic
> pic by rolf is that it doesnt clearly reveal the
> summit or the tripoint rock
> so far as i can tell
> plus
> i havent been able to place that neighborhood within
> this neighborhood yet at google earth
>
> so perhaps you can somehow help me to see this
> & what you mean about it
>
> as for your personal memory
> well thats different & i would say far better than
> anything else we have
> if it is a confident recollection
>
> & again i wonder if the group of eye witnesses might
> have a consensus
>
> here are the tries again for ready reference in case
> you can get their attention
> http://article.
>
<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.culture.discuss.boundary-point/9258>
> gmane.org/gmane.culture.discuss.boundary-point/9258
> & a fresh attachment showing the terrain in cross
> section at eye level
> with my peak guess looking to be only about 50
> horizontal meters from your pushpin in any case
>
> --- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase <jesper@nicolette.
> <mailto:jesper%40nicolette.dk> dk>
> wrote:
>
> > Even though I believe the tp is the summit I have
> > not placed the pin at the
> > summit according to GE, as I believe GE got the
> > terrain wrong.
> >
> > Compare the light clearing along ITSI with Rolf's
> > photo at
> > http://www..vasa.
> <http://www.vasa.abo.fi/users/rpalmber/SAI2.jpg.>
> abo.fi/users/rpalmber/SAI2.jpg.
> >
> > I placed the pin according to the memory and the
> > clearings.
> >
> > Jesper
> >
> > --
> > Borderbase - your online guide to international
> > borders and tripoints
> > http://www.nicolett
> <http://www.nicolette.dk/borderbase> e.dk/borderbase
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Fra: BoundaryPoint@
> <mailto:BoundaryPoint%40yahoogroups.com>
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> > [mailto:BoundaryPoint@
> <mailto:BoundaryPoint%40yahoogroups.com>
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> > vegne af aletheia kallos
> > Sendt: 18. september 2006 21:36
> > Til: boundarypoint@
> <mailto:boundarypoint%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> > Emne: [BoundaryPoint] atitsi
> >
> >
> >
> > the well known tripoint marker at least looks like
> > it
> > may stand upon the exact summit point of mt forno
> > http://www.vasa.
> > <http://www.vasa.
> <http://www.vasa.abo.fi/users/rpalmber/SAI8.jpg>
> abo.fi/users/rpalmber/SAI8.jpg>
> > abo.fi/users/rpalmber/SAI8.jpg
> > & the best available maps also appear to agree
> that
> > the tripoint is at the summit
> >
> > so for lack of anything better in the moment
> > i again searched topographically at google earth
> for
> > this unique spot
> > & soon came up with the attached tripoint
> stretching
> > diagram
> >
> > & would again like to be corrected about this by
> > jesper if necessary
> > or anyone else who knows the true situation first
> > hand
> > for i am again just guessing either google earth
> has
> > again somehow thrown the pushpin off kilter a
> little
> > or else the position it marks was also just a
> first
> > guess
> >
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