& if you allow for the fact that the russian road must
have been modernized & straightened fairly recently
& also for the fact that this sloppily registered
hybrid satpic indicates the tripoint about 1200 meters
too far to the southeast
whooops
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.176059,59.853516&q=belarus+russia+ukraine&ie=UTF8&ll=52.110511,31.782589&spn=0.025882,0.058451&t=h&om=1
which i would guess must be fairly typical of google
maps
then you can already
s e e
the kurgan druzhby plaza there as the small dark
triangle within the larger white triangle where these
3 roads meet
& can at least visualize how the roadways & traffic
must somehow skirt & circulate around the monument
hill
but of course we are still no closer to seeing the
tripoint itself
presumably in or near the middle of the dark triangle
in the satpic
it now looks like the flickr pix could each be a good
500 meters or so from the true tripoint
& it may be worth noting that normal people could be
just as oblivious of tripoint monuments as many
devoted trypointers are oblivious of exactly where
upon or among the tripoint monuments to look for the
actual tripoints
it is only natural to forget in all the excitement
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia kallos
<aletheiak@...> wrote:
>
> well they are undoubtedly authentic pix of the
greater
> byruua triarea
> most probably within a very few hundred meters of
> ground zero
> so it is curious that these folks dont show any
> interest in the byruua monument that we know & love
> rising from the kurgan druzhby
> meaning mound of friendship or freedom monument or
> something
>
http://www.admin.debryansk.ru/~press/geogr1/3res1.jpg
>
http://www.admin.debryansk.ru/~press/PHOTOS/brata.jpg
> http://www.grom.orn.ru/eksped/03.htm
>
http://www.ravnenie-na-pobedu.ru/regions/32/region/friendshipb.jpg
> which i believe must stand & indeed dominate the
scene
>
> in the case of all 3 of these flickr pix directly
> behind the photographer
> & in the center of what i am guessing has become a
> full traffic circle
>
> the byruua tripoint per se tho
> based on soviet administrative practice if not any
> subsequent treaty
> is i believe in the pavement at the foot of this
> monument
> & still exactly as was depicted here
>
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu:8085/x-ussr/100k/N-36-136.jpg
> except that the roadway into russia must have since
> been upgraded & straightened so as to substantially
> match the other two roadways
>
> it is ironic tho that despite so many visits by so
> many hordes of visitors to this fairly monumental
> monument & tripoint
> we are still class e here as in elusive
> & moreover have not a clue what it looks like on the
> ground there
>
>
> some really good news to add is that the bp search
> engine has been magnificently upgraded recently
> so it isnt even necessary to keep pumping it all the
> way back to message number 1 any more
> but the whole trove is given immediately &
> automatically in bite sized chunks of 10 units
>
> try it out on your favorite topic
> & youll love it now even more than before
>
> between border base & bp we are very rich indeed
>
> --- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase <jesper@...>
> wrote:
>
> > UA:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/captain-k/22574738/
> > BY:
> >
>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/captain-k/22574739/in/photostream/
> > RU:
> >
>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/captain-k/22574740/in/photostream/
> >
> > --
> > Borderbase - your online guide to international
> > borders and tripoints
> > http://www.nicolette.dk/borderbase
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