The Egyptian "military officer" that was required to accompany the confluencing
party on its adventure into the wilderness might very well have been from this
border guard force. If it was indeed responsible for the border sign at the 22
x 27 confluence, then perhaps the guard fellow took them there to show off his
and his buddy's handiwork.
While a border disagreement between Egypt and Sudan apparently persists as to
control of the land between the "treaty" and "administrative" boundaries near
the Red Sea, I don't think that there's any question that most of the rest of
EGSD runs along the 22nd parallel. I do suspect that the signage was
unilateral, however.
Perhaps Mohamed can elucidate us on all of this.
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
To: <boundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 4:35 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] speculative but very plausible double hit on 22x27 egsd
sign & more
> on page 12 of this 2005 european union document
> http://europa.eu.int/comm/world/
> enp/pdf/country/egypt_cr_0503.pdf
> it says of egypt as follows
>
>
> border management is enforced by the border guard
> force
> a department of the ministry of the interior with
> 12000 personnel
> & by the coast guard under the navy with manpower of
> about 2000
>
> border demarcation with libya was defined by the 1925
> & 1926 italian egyptian agreement
> & the 1934 british egyptian agreement
>
> a border dispute still exists with sudan
>
>
> so the implication is
> there is not yet a border agreement nor any actual
> border demarcation with sudan
> &
> the egsd sign at 22x27 could easily have been the
> unilateral handiwork of this very
> border guard force
>
>
> one quibble tho is that the mentioned 1934 eggb
> agreement should rather be eggbit
> for this is just the trilateral rome agreement i have
> been so hotly pursuing
> but they can be forgiven for having forgotten that
> little detail
> while also being trusted for having the overall
> picture essentially correct
>
>
> but meanwhile
> in pursuit of that very 1934 eggbit
> i stumbled on the mother of all treaty collections
> here
> http://157.150.195.4/LibertyIMS::/sid67umH7V2SQH6wvB9/cmd%3DXmlGetWebPage%3BCmdFile%3Dtoppage%2Ecmd
> so bookmark that baby for sure
>
> & from there i soon landed here
> http://157.150.195.4/LibertyIMS::/sid67umH7V2SQH6wvB9/Cmd%3DXmlGetRequest%3BName%3D%2364%3BNoUI%3D1%3BF0%3D155%3BF1%3DEnglish/French%3BF2%3D3567%3BF3%3D45%3Bstyle%3DXmlPageViewer%2Exsl
> which is the full text of the very 1934 eggbit
> which evidently never had any maps annexed
> whether datumized or otherwise
> & also mentions no datum in the text
>
> so we are back to square zero on that
>
> hahahahaha
>
> told you we were whaling in mirage country here mateys
>
>
> but at least we still do have ishmael i mean mohamed
> to look forward to
>
> plus the vanishing chance of somehow still finding as
> well as somehow collating the egly & lysd datums if
> any
>
> which i will also begin running to ground at the above
> united nations treaty site
> as soon as i post this much
>
> but lets face it now
>
> eglysd is already looking very much like a default to
> wgs84
>
>
>
>
>
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