Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: theory of enclaves and exclaves
Date: Nov 21, 2005 @ 18:00
Author: chris ("chris" <wertkauf@...>)
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Hi Michael,

it was a fault, i wanted to post this directly to Yewgeni, but missed to
change the mail-adress.
Sorry.

Regards, Chris

> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>
> An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] Re: theory of enclaves and exclaves
> Datum: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:36:01 -0000
>
> chris welcome back & thanx for this review of lots of good old times here
> even if they were & are again misdirected to this our multipointing site
>
> please note too our special new border & claving etc site is
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/borderpoint
> where i happen to know some members would love to be getting all this
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Arne Schulz" <wertkauf@g...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Evgeny,
> >
> > I just read your Chapter 2 and want to add some little things.
> > First of all i want to ask you, if you can link my site
> www.enklave.de.vu
> > instead of the old site at http://www.8ung.at/enklaven/Index.htm when
> you
> > talk about the Claridge Hotel. The old site is not reachable anymore.
> >
> > Then I want to add some cases:
> >
> > - Between USA and Canada you can find between Vermont and Quebec the
> tiny
> > place of Province Point, that belongs to the USA, but is only reachable
> by
> > boat, as its the end of a peninsula, thats "cut" by the border.
> > http://www.freewebtown.com/malcik/Frames/province.htm
> >
> > - an interesting situation can be found on the border between USA and
> Canada
> > near Campobello Island. This Island belongs to Canada, but is connected
> by a
> > bridge to the USA. So you can reach it by car only from the USA
> > http://www.freewebtown.com/malcik/Frames/campobello.htm
> >
> > - Between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland you can find
> > interesting situation close to Drumully. There is a Pene-enclave, that
> > belongs to Republic of Ireland, inside this territory there are some
> more
> > cases of pene-enclaves, that belong to Republic of Ireland, but are
> > accessible by car only from Northern Ireland. You can see this on my
> page at
> > http://www.freewebtown.com/malcik/Frames/drumully.htm
> >
> > - the spanish - moroccian cases beside Ceuta and Melilla are all
> islands,
> > without Penon de Velez de la Gomera. This was an island, but now is
> > connected to Morocco, becoming a real Spanish exclave and showing the
> only
> > real Spanish-Moroccian border (because Ceuta and Melilla are surrounded
> by
> > neutral territory). Beside this it seems to be the shortest border
> between
> > two different countries.
> > Maybe Ifni will be of interest.
> > http://www.freewebtown.com/malcik/Frames/spanien%20in%20afrika.htm
> > http://www.freewebtown.com/malcik/Frames/velez.htm
> > http://www.freewebtown.com/malcik/Frames/ifni.htm
> >
> > - maybe you could take the situation of Palestine and the different
> zones in
> > western jordan region.
> > http://www.freewebtown.com/malcik/Frames/pal%E4stina.htm
> >
> > - on the north-western end of Togo you can find a semi-enclave, that
> belongs
> > to Togo, but is only accessible by Upper Volta
> > http://www.freewebtown.com/malcik/Frames/togo-eck.htm
> >
> > - between USA and Mexico you could find until the early 70ies Rio Rico
> or
> > Horcon tract, a piece of land south of the Rio Grande (that builds the
> > border) belonging to the USA.
> > http://www.freewebtown.com/malcik/Frames/rio-rico.htm#
> >
> > - something similar to the Claridge hotel happened to the Civic Clinic
> in
> > Ottawa, when it became short time Dutch territory because of the birth
> of
> > Princess Margaret. Otherwise this member of royal Dutch family
> automatically
> > had become Canadian...
> http://www.freewebtown.com/malcik/Frames/Claridge.htm
> >
> > - only one more case of innerstate enclaves from Germany between Hessen
> and
> > Baden-Württemberg. Its close to Oberlaudenbach. There you can even find
> a
> > counter-enclave and two "normal" enclaves, one in Hessen and one in BW.
> > http://www.freewebtown.com/malcik/Frames/oberlaudenbach.htm
> >
> > Its a good work you did, i learned a lot more, thanks for your searches.
> > Regards, Chris Schulz
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Evgeny Vinokurov" <evgeny@v...>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:35 PM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] theory of enclaves and exclaves
> >
> >
> > > Hello everybody,
> > >
> > > if you are interested in enclaves and exclaves, I have just uploaded a
> > > new version of the "Theory of enclaves" at my website,
> > > www.vinokurov.info/enclaves.htm. You can download either the complete
> > > file (4.2 mb) or by chapter. It is about 270 pages long now and much
> > > enlarged in comparison with the earlier stuff. Your comments are
> > > appreciated.
> > > Evgeny
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