Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: My last 3 Japanese Tripoints
Date: Nov 17, 2005 @ 18:05
Author: aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
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ok i agree you have 4 good prospects there & have
advanced the overall punctoscopy to at least 48
probabilities anyway

--- Hugh Wallis <hugh@...> wrote:

> OK- watchizu does not show maritime boundaries.
> However Yahoo does as
> follows
>
> Yamaguchi-Hiroshima-Ehime -
> http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.00.00
>
<http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.00.00&el=132.30.00&la=1&fi=1&sc=7>
> &el=132.30.00&la=1&fi=1&sc=7
>
> Hiroshima Ehime-Kagawa and Hiroshima-Kagawa-Okayama
> -
> http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.19.20.304
>
<http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.19.20.304&el=133.40.5.163&la=1&sc=7&ML.x=8&
> ML.y=6> &el=133.40.5.163&la=1&sc=7&ML.x=8&ML.y=6
>
> Okayama-Kagawa-Hyogo -
> http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.19.20.304
>
<http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.19.20.304&el=134.3.25.961&la=1&sc=7&RU.x=10
> &RU.y=3> &el=134.3.25.961&la=1&sc=7&RU.x=10&RU.y=3
>
> and you can zoom in and out and move around on these
> too
>
> Cheers
>
> Hugh
>
>
> _____
>
> From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Hugh Wallis
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:20 PM
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: My last 3 Japanese
> Tripoints
>
>
> Attached is a scan of the relevant page from the
> Kodansha bilingual Japanese
> atlas showing the possible maritime tripoints. I'll
> figure out the correct
> topos shortly too
>
> Cheers
>
> Hugh
>
>
> _____
>
> From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of aletheiak
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:04 PM
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: My last 3 Japanese
> Tripoints
>
>
> actually i have already done most of that exercise
> for the reader at
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/17423
> possibly the very email you mention
> as well as begun some of the other exercises you are
> also undertaking here
> now
> tho a complete set of hexaglyphs is probably what is
> most needed next
> for clarity simplicity ease convenience titillation
> etc
> so maybe thats for me to try on the next moonless
> night
> while i am also still assimilating all your findings
>
> &
> i still cant speak with any confidence beyond the
> apparently magical number
> of 44
> since i havent found a map that actually shows or
> even intimates more than
> these 44
> & dont read japanese or legalese very well
> but i suppose maritime tripoints are still possible
> just as you suggest
>
> & it is any clear confirmation of such hypothetical
> possibilities than is
> still really needed
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Wallis"
> <hugh@o...> wrote:
> >
> > I believe at least 5 are wet - notably:
> >
> > Gifu Mie Aichi
> > Nagano Aichi Shizuoka
> > Tochigi Saitama Ibaraki
> > Ibaraki Saitama Chiba
> > Saitama Tokyo Chiba
> >
> > One I would characterise as damp (being in a
> marshy area according to the
> > topo maps) - notably:
> >
> > Niigata Gumma Fukushima
> >
> > There may be other wet ones that I just haven't
> had time to check the maps
> > for
> >
> > Also there are 4 possible additional ones (over
> and above the 44 you
> > identified in an earlier e-mail) that lie in the
> waters between the
> islands
> > of Shikoku and Honshu which may require some
> research and debate as to
> > whether they qualify as genuine tripoints (i.e.,
> how wet is wet?) -
> notably:
> >
> > Hiroshima Yamaguchi Ehime
> > Hiroshima Ehime Kagawa
> > Okayama Hiroshima Kagawa
> > Okayama Kagawa Hyogo
> >
> > (Apologies for not getting them in correct
> alphabetical order but I'll
> leave
> > that as a exercise to the reader :)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> > P.S. Just for the record here are all of them
> working from South West to
> > North East - I have also included prefectures that
> have no tripoints by
> > identifying those prefectures with which they have
> a border:
> >
> >
> >
> > Island Pref 1 Pref 2 Pref 3
> Lat/Long
> >
> > Kyushu Nagasaki Saga
>
> > Kyushu Saga Fukuoka
>
> >
> > Kyushu Kumamoto Kagoshima Miyazaki
>
> > Kyushu Oita Kumamoto Miyazaki
>
> > Kyushu Fukuoka Kumamoto Oita
>
> >
> > Shikoku Ehime Kochi Tokushima
>
> > Shikoku Kagawa Ehime Tokushima
>
> >
> > Honshu Shimane Yamaguchi Hiroshima
>
> > Honshu Tottori Shimane Hiroshima
>
> > Honshu Tottori Hiroshima Okayama
>
> > Honshu Hyogo Tottori Okayama
>
> > Honshu Kyoto Hyogo Osaka
>
> > Honshu Osaka Wakayama Nara
> 34°22.986'N, 135°39.066'E
>
> > Honshu Kyoto Osaka Nara
> 34°46.668'N, 135°43.715'E
>
> > Honshu Nara Wakayama Mie
>
> > Honshu Fukui Kyoto Shiga
> 35°21.349'N, 135°46.120'E
>
> > Honshu Kyoto Nara Mie
> 34°44.299'N, 136°03.330'E
>
> > Honshu Shiga Kyoto Mie
> 34°47.477'N, 136°01.334'E
>
> > Honshu Fukui Shiga Gifu
> 35°39.506'N, 136°16.837'E
>
> > Honshu Gifu Shiga Mie
> 35°13.058'N, 136°24.903'E
> > Honshu Gifu Mie Aichi
> 35°08.077'N, 136°40.368'E
> > Honshu Ishikawa Fukui Gifu
> 36°05.164'N,
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