"What is the truth here"? You allude to a common feature of Soviet - and
also "modern" Russian management of bordes/boundaries: Nobody knows for
sure. In addition: Borders are shifted per ???? - Ukáz - decree, in
Stalinistic times sometimes in the form of a telegram without previous
announcements/consultation; you can imagine how "accurate" these were.
A nice example is offered by the ongoing quarrel between Ingushetiya and
North-Ossetia over the Progorodnyj district, where borders have repeatedly
been shifted back and forth so often that the local people decided to ignore
all this and start fighting against each other. You may also refer to
http://www.ingush.ru/d.asp where all this misery is displayed in splendor.
Right now discussions are going on in the Duma to reduce the number of
Russian "subjects" by combining some of them to greater units, in order to
minimize administration costs. You may wonder if this does not mean breaking
up wounds of old ethnic disputes, rather than helping to solve a problem.
Typical is also the kind of treatment that the Russians give to the Georgian
border. Repeatedly in the recent past the Russians have shifted the border
stepwise to the South, in increments of 100 metres or so, i.e. in increments
small enough not to arouse international clashes, but effective enough on
the other hand since the Georgian side is unable to offer resistance.
Good luck in analyzing ols Soviet maps!
Wolfgang
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BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von aletheia kallos
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Oktober 2005 23:42
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Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] but yikes afcntj looks to be off peak now too
this soviet topo shows the former afcnsu
which is now afcntj
20 meters lower than & several hundred meters away
from the peak of mt povalo shveikovski
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu:8085/tajikistan/100k/10-43-102.jpg
but all 3 treaties specify the summit itself & far
different elevations
http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/LimitsinSeas/IBS089.pdf
page 4
http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/LimitsinSeas/IBS026.pdf
pages 12 & 16
including an apparent mention of a marker
&
http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/LimitsinSeas/IBS064.pdf
page 16
the variety in the elevations of up to 175 meters is
not so disturbing as the apparently even greater
displacement from the known summit point
but what is the truth here
& why all this discrepancy
& how far can we trust these soviet maps anyway
oops
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