Subject: SV: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Where is this German exclave in Belgium?
Date: Sep 01, 2005 @ 05:22
Author: Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
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It’s true that road surface change can be a good indicator of a boundary, but as you say sharing or outsourcing does happen.

 

But we have also seen signs, rubbish bins and other sort of hardware placed on the wrong side.

 

And enclaves in itself are rarely local copes of the motherland as they may share currencies, phone systems etc with their host country.

 

Jesper

 

 

 


Fra: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com] På vegne af L. A. Nadybal
Sendt: 1. september 2005 02:57
Til: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Emne: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Where is this German exclave in Belgium?

 

Dear Hugh,

Glad you enjoy our company.

De jure, we don't have answers.  I have the treaty, and by the end of
the first week of Sept, I'll try to email you scans of the text and
accompanying map.   The map is not detailed at all - you won't find
the answers there.

De jure, the Germans keep the roads up where there are German lands on
the west side of the tracks.   You can see the reflector side markers
are German as threy pass under the arches of the railway bridges, and
the pavement doesn't change for the small stretch under the bridges
themselves.  That in itself wouldn't let you draw conclusions as to
the de facto assumption of sovereignty - because the Germans, for all
we know, send the Belgians a bill for the work they do on the twenty
foot stretches of highway under the bridges.  At grade crossings, the
pavement and markers also don't change, and it is clear that the roads
crossing the tracks are in Belgium for the width of the railway bed. 
I don't recall noticing, though, what country's warning/crossing
lights and gates come down across the tracks.  I guess that would
depend on where they were installed - close to the tracks (within the
width of the Bahnkoerper), then Belgian - further away from the
tracks,  then German.  I guess.

In April I'll have time to make more visits to local officials to see
what I can determine as to who determines when repairs/maintenance is
necessary and who contracts for it and pays.  I have a feeling,
though, that the answers will lie in the federal offices of Belgium
and Germany. 

Regards

Len Nadybal
Washington DC