hahahaha
& so silly of you to be sorry
hahaha
& a dead clave purist now yet too
hahahahaha
hahahahahaha
ahhh
hahaha
for perhaps they arent really dead but only sleeping
hahaha
dream sweet pal
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@c...> wrote:
> Sorry you don't have the talent to follow...
> The government of Bhutan abandoned the exclaves. Period.
> RE: Kalimong - You have to do a little research on your own if you
> want absolutes before I can ascertain them for you.
> LN
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> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> > hard to follow all your dreaming & claiming as usual
> > but are you not saying that all you can really confirm once again
> are just more & more
> > dead claves
> > & perhaps some foreign owned real estate
> >
> >
> > the question was
> > do any claves exist there
> >
> > & i still think the answer is no
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "L. A. Nadybal"
> <lnadybal@c...> wrote:
> > > Thanks Chris... here is what I dreamt up about the subject:
> > >
> > > a. There were seven Bhutanese exclaves.
> > > b. Their names were:
> > > - Taharen (also: Darchen / Tarchen and [to the Chinese:
> Daerjing)
> > > - Tsehher
> > > - Diraphu
> > > - Dzung Tuphu
> > > - Jangeke
> > > - Chahip
> > > - Cooha
> > >
> > > c. Darchen was the administrative capital of the region, located
> > > at 80'20" E and 30'55" N, about 100 yeards from the foothills of Mt.
> > > Kailash. Kailash is about 100 miles directly north of the
> > > northwesternmost tip of Nepal - a good 300 to 400 miles from Bhutan,
> > > regardless of whether you are a walking or flying crow. According to
> > > literature, Darchen under the Bhutanese consisted of a temple, a "poor
> > > restaurant" and a teahouse.
> > > d. To the Bhutanese, theses possessions were collectively known as
> > > "Northern Kangri".
> > > e. In 1949, Bhutan's entered into the treaty with India about
> > > which you read in a couple of messages earlier, under which it agreed
> > > to be "guided" by India (not subservient to India) with respect to its
> > > foreign relations. The treaty replaced the earlier one that it had
> > > with the UK, which had quit India. Under the treaty, the Bhutanese
> > > sought out Indian assistance in getting a complaint lodged with China
> > > about the Chinese interfering with the Bhutanese government's
> > > official courier to the area, and for preventing the courier from
> > > seeking protection of the Indians at the Indian Trade Agency offices
> > > in Tibet.
> > > On 19 August 1959, India issued a letter of protest to China about
> > > this matter on Bhutan's behalf.
> > > f. Shortly after the complaint was filed, Chinese soldiers
> > > occupied the exclaves. Another complaint letter was requested and was
> > > issued, but to no avail.
> > > g. Shortly after that, Bhutan closed its border with Tibet (it is
> > > still closed to this day). It withdrew the Lamas from the embassy
> > > (called a "trade mission" by British envoy Williamson in his map of
> > > Lhasa) and the exclaves and essentially abandoned them. (I've heard
> > > that the former governor from the exclaves is alive today and living
> > > in Bhutan).
> > > h. Bhutan also possesses a Stupa near Kathhmandu. It may be only
> > > extraterritorial - I've not been able to ascertain that.
> > > i. Bhutan also possesses or possessed two plots of land in
> > > Kalimpong, India, which were left to it when the rest of what was
> > > known under British rule as "British Bhutan" - an area SW of Bhutan
> > > and S of Sikkim, which Britain annexed in the 1860s in retribution for
> > > Bhutanese acts that caused the Duar War. A Bhutanese post office
> > > operated there in the early to mid 1960s. On these plots there are
> > > what are known as the Old and New Bhutan Houses. They were owned by
> > > the royal family, which I hear placed one or both of them up for sale
> > > sometime in the last couple of years. I do not know if they have been
> > > sold or whether the sale means Bhutan had effectively abandoned these
> > > plots, too. A measure of the sovereignty Bhutan exercized over these
> > > plots can be traced from the aftermath of a murder committed on one of
> > > the plots. The alleged murderer was not subject to Indian
> > > jurisprudence... the Bhutanese caretaker who served the royals in the
> > > late 20th centure wrote me in early 1992 that the Bhutanese officials
> > > spirited the fellow across Indian territory to Bhutan proper to face
> > > justice in Bhutan.
> > > j. RE: Dewangiri. It's not a "strip of land", but more like a
> > > square that jutted into the Bhutanese foothills when it was Indian.
> > > It is the site of a Bhutanese fort from which the Bhutanese caused the
> > > British a bitter humiliation in the Duar War. The area is now the
> > > territory that surrounds the Bhutanese town of Deothang to its south -
> > > in days past the town name was spelled "Dewathang". You can see the
> > > relationship in the names. The Indian constitution prohibits the
> > > government of India from giving away national territory. The fact
> > > that Dewangiri was returned indicates that it was never considered
> > > part and parcel of India - perhaps only "occupied" despite having
> been
> > > "annexed".
> > >
> > > Dream on Mr. A.
> > >
> > > LN