Subject: Re: AW: [BoundaryPoint] Bhutan Exclaves in Tibet
Date: Jun 28, 2005 @ 12:03
Author: aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
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yes unbelievable because you were not in fact in a
bhutanese exclave but only in a former bhutanese
exclave
even at the time you were there

nor is it true that it wont survive
but only that it didnt & doesnt survive
except of course as a dead issue

--- Wolfgang Schaub
<Wolfgang.Schaub@...> wrote:

> Darchen! Unbelievable! Never had I thought that I
> was in a Bhutanese exclave
> when I circled around Mt Kailash in September 1994.
>
> Darchen consisted - at that time - of an assembly of
> Tibetan dwellings, a
> "poor" caravanseray-type restaurant/hotel and the
> idea of a toilet located
> over a small stream, open to the curious views of
> the locals (How do they do
> it, those Westerners? Is it true that theis is
> longer than ours?)
>
> Close-by, behind a wall, the Chinese began building
> a "true" hotel. At least
> they had been able, to that point, affixing a metal
> plaque at the wall
> describing in glorious language what their
> intentions were.
>
> There were also Tibetan (prostitutes?) who believed
> they should behave and
> clothe like Chinese - ridiculous - deplorabe?
>
> Now, as I hear, they are building a road around Mt
> Kailash, to attract more
> tourists. I see with pleasure that tourists will fly
> in Through Lhasa,
> travel without acclimatization to Darchen, step out
> of their car on the pass
> behind Mt Kailash - 5600 m high - and collapse. What
> a nice experience must
> that be!
>
> Good luck to Darchen. You won't survive.
>
> Wolfgang
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von
> L. A. Nadybal
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2005 06:41
> An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] Bhutan Exclaves in Tibet
>
>
> Thanks Chris... here is what I dreamt up about the
> subject:
>
> a. There were seven Bhutanese exclaves.
> b. Their names were:
> - Taharen (also: Darchen / Tarchen and [to
> the Chinese: Daerjing)
> - Tsehher
> - Diraphu
> - Dzung Tuphu
> - Jangeke
> - Chahip
> - Cooha
>
> c. Darchen was the administrative capital of
> the region, located
> at 80'20" E and 30'55" N, about 100 yeards from
> the foothills of Mt.
> Kailash. Kailash is about 100 miles directly
> north of the
> northwesternmost tip of Nepal - a good 300 to 400
> miles from Bhutan,
> regardless of whether you are a walking or flying
> crow. According to
> literature, Darchen under the Bhutanese consisted
> of a temple, a "poor
> restaurant" and a teahouse.
> d. To the Bhutanese, theses possessions were
> collectively known as
> "Northern Kangri".
> e. In 1949, Bhutan's entered into the treaty
> with India about
> which you read in a couple of messages earlier,
> under which it agreed
> to be "guided" by India (not subservient to India)
> with respect to its
> foreign relations. The treaty replaced the
> earlier one that it had
> with the UK, which had quit India. Under the
> treaty, the Bhutanese
> sought out Indian assistance in getting a
> complaint lodged with China
> about the Chinese interfering with the Bhutanese
> government's
> official courier to the area, and for preventing
> the courier from
> seeking protection of the Indians at the Indian
> Trade Agency offices
> in Tibet.
> On 19 August 1959, India issued a letter of
> protest to China about
> this matter on Bhutan's behalf.
> f. Shortly after the complaint was filed,
> Chinese soldiers
> occupied the exclaves. Another complaint letter
> was requested and was
> issued, but to no avail.
> g. Shortly after that, Bhutan closed its
> border with Tibet (it is
> still closed to this day). It withdrew the Lamas
> from the embassy
> (called a "trade mission" by British envoy
> Williamson in his map of
> Lhasa) and the exclaves and essentially abandoned
> them. (I've heard
> that the former governor from the exclaves is
> alive today and living
> in Bhutan).
> h. Bhutan also possesses a Stupa near
> Kathhmandu. It may be only
> extraterritorial - I've not been able to ascertain
> that.
> i. Bhutan also possesses or possessed two
> plots of land in
> Kalimpong, India, which were left to it when the
> rest of what was
> known under British rule as "British Bhutan" - an
> area SW of Bhutan
> and S of Sikkim, which Britain annexed in the
> 1860s in retribution for
> Bhutanese acts that caused the Duar War. A
> Bhutanese post office
> operated there in the early to mid 1960s. On
> these plots there are
> what are known as the Old and New Bhutan Houses.
> They were owned by
> the royal family, which I hear placed one or both
> of them up for sale
> sometime in the last couple of years. I do not
> know if they have been
> sold or whether the sale means Bhutan had
> effectively abandoned these
> plots, too. A measure of the sovereignty Bhutan
> exercized over these
> plots can be traced from the aftermath of a murder
> committed on one of
> the plots. The alleged murderer was not subject
> to Indian
> jurisprudence... the Bhutanese caretaker who
> served the royals in the
> late 20th centure wrote me in early 1992 that the
> Bhutanese officials
> spirited the fellow across Indian territory to
> Bhutan proper to face
> justice in Bhutan.
> j. RE: Dewangiri. It's not a "strip of
> land", but more like a
> square that jutted into the Bhutanese foothills
> when it was Indian.
> It is the site of a Bhutanese fort from which the
> Bhutanese caused the
> British a bitter humiliation in the Duar War. The
> area is now the
> territory that surrounds the Bhutanese town of
> Deothang to its south -
> in days past the town name was spelled
> "Dewathang". You can see the
> relationship in the names. The Indian
> constitution prohibits the
> government of India from giving away national
> territory. The fact
> that Dewangiri was returned indicates that it was
> never considered
> part and parcel of India - perhaps only "occupied"
> despite having been
> "annexed".
>
> Dream on Mr. A.
>
> LN

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