Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Belgian lower order claves
Date: Mar 14, 2001 @ 22:36
Author: michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
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>Brendan Whyte wrote:
>
>> >If you accept the above argument, the only islands which would meet
>> >Brendan's strict definition of an enclave
>>
>> ...AT SEA...
>>
>> >would be those whose
>> >territorial sea is totally surrounded by the territorial sea of
>> >another state - and, as yet, I have been unable to think of any....
>>
>> Thanks Martin.
>>
>> Enclaves are most useful when considered for areas of equal/similar
>> sovereignty, ie EITHER internal units OR nations, OR EEZs/Highseas, etc.
>> Thus we can think of high seas enclaves in EEZs or EEZs inside other EEZs
>> (ie St Pierre, Channel Islands, Monaco) or national level enclaves in
>> nations, but enclaves at one level bordering on a unit of higher level of
>> sovereignty are less interesting as they have fewer practical implications.
>> Hence less interest in the 2 or 3 Belgian provincial fragments that adjoin
>> its neighbouring nations.
>
>There are two exclaves (I would say)/fragments (you would say) I know of:
>the municipality of Voeren
>and the municipality of Comines-Warneton. They are not only provincial,
>but also regional. This is
>one level up. Belgium is a federal state, divided into three regions. Two
>of them are divided into
>provinces, and these into municipalities. The third region, Brussels,
>lacks the province layer and
>is directly divided into (19) municipalities.
>The third provincial 'fragclave' was Sugny (province of Luxembourg, but
>surrounded by province of
>Namur and France) was abolished on 1-1-1977, in the giant Belgian
>municipal reshuffle that took
>place.
>
>On the subject of claves of a lower order (e.g. municipalities): In
>Brussels, the municipality of
>Elsene/Ixelles is cut in two by Brussels (the Louizalaan/Avenue Louise
>area). On older maps, the
>same goes for the municipality of St. Gillis/St. Gilles. On newer maps,
>the small part east of the
>Louizalaan, at the Little Ring, is absent. Does it still exist? Or has it
>been added to either
>Brussels or Elsene/Ixelles?
>
>Peter S.
>
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