oops
heres the link i meant
http://www.bartleby.com/65/ex/extrater.html

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia kallos <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
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>
> note that territorial inviolability is indeed
> mentioned in connection with exterritoriality & or
> extraterritoriality
> under certain circumstances
>
> but nowhere is there any mention of any actual status
> of exterritoriality or extraterritoriality inhering to
> any territory
>
> inhering to a ship yes under certain circumstances
> & perhaps to an airplane as well
> but not to an area or parcel of land
>
> for this notion is just not in standard english yet
> nor in legal usage
> so far as i can see
>
>
> & by chance i also have here at home the third edition
> of the same encyclopedia published in 1963
> since this is an illustrious columbia household &
> hilltop here
> & this earlier version says in addition as follows
>
> obviously
> armies in occupation of an enemy country are
> altogether exempt from the jurisdiction of the
> occupied country
>
>
> & from this i also infer that no exterritorial or
> extraterritorial legal status inheres to any
> militarily occupied territory by virtue of that
> occupancy either
>
> & that it was just too obvious to even mention in the
> newer slicker version
>
>
> & as for the possible nontechnical english meanings of
> the words exterritorial & extraterritorial
> they can indeed refer
> either
> to a place or thing located beyond territorial limits
> or
> to a person exempt from local legal jurisdiction
>
>
> but evidently
> n o t
> to a place or thing
> exempt from local legal jurisdiction
>
>
> so if anyone wants to go to the trouble of saying
> extraterritorial area
> they should just know what they are actually talking
> about
>
> namely
> an area that is in some unspecified sense out of
> normal bounds
>
> for thats all it means & thats all it can mean in
> english
> unless i am mistaken
>
>
> & if there is then some specified sense added to that
> word & that area
> by some additional word or words
> or laws or agreements etc etc
> well then thats what it means too
>
> but of course only if it is specified
>
>
> so if anyone is going to take the trouble to specify
> such things
> then they may find themselves wanting to reconsider if
> they really need or even want to say
> extraterritorial area
> at all any more
> when perhaps something freer would serve their
> purposes better
> as well as the authenticity of their translation
> like say just for example
>
> achtung honkies
>
>
> or
>
>
> yikes stop or you are leaving normal reality
>
>
>
> etc
>
>
>
>
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