Subject: Re: French Properties on St Helena
Date: May 02, 2005 @ 22:42
Author: L. A. Nadybal ("L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...> wrote:

but territorial extraterritoriality
if ever there was any
was extinguished by the vienna treaty of 1961...


WRONG. ...and you have no proof of the assertion with respect to this
place. The treaty of '61 didn't apply to this place. Evidence: the
sign remained after the treaty and so did the non-German administration.

In fact, the treaty didn't apply to enclaves like Büsinge, which are
indesputably "extrateritorial" with respect to the territory, laws,
people and economy of the countries that surround them.

To Lowell: It was housing and seat of operations for the Russians
assigned to watch allied movements in the West Sector of W. Germany -
put into place by the Hubner-Malanin agreement to reduce cold war
tensions and reduce flare ups that kept starting because of
perceptions of maneuvers being threats.

A similar post that the Russians kept out of the DDR / East German
territory (like W. Berlin and its' enclaves themselves were not part
of the East regime) existed in Potsdam - which the Russians placed at
the disposal of the US. There were two others that the Russians
operated out of, one was operated by the French in Baden-Baden and the
other was in the north, operated by the British in what was the
British sector in western Germany.

The Russians murdered an American who worked at the Potsdam site (I
think in 1980s - after the '61 treaty!!!), and claimed he was snooping
at Russian military operations where he wasn't supposed to be. The
Germans had no legal part to play (nor did they play any role) in the
resolution of the incident because it was extraterritorial under the
agreement that W Germany respected as a limit on its sovereignty when
it came into existence and when the allies conferred sovereignty on it
in 1955.

Len