according to my cheap encyclopedia there were 2 tordesillas lines
both of them explicitly bipolar circles
that of the 1493 papal bull set the line 100 leagues west of the cape verde
islands
ironically in australia the complementary line of longitude corresponds
roughly to the great dividing range
that of the 1494 treaty revised it to 370 leagues west of the cape verde
islands
fittingly in this case too
it appears to make a direct hit on the western australia boundary line
hmm
must have had something to do with the doctrine of papal infallibility
m
>
>No, until Magellan no one knew the world was round, so couldn't draw a line
>on the other side. Remember longitude was a damn difficult thing to
>calculate for centuries, so any line would have been highly inaccurate
>anyway, for anyone trying to work out where it was in relation to their
>boat.
>
>
>Someone asked about Aussie tripoints.
>Very difficult to get to. You need a 4wd. There is a pub at one (called the
>corner hotel), but they are not at all easily accessible, the WA/NT/SA one
>especially. The 2 Qld/NT/SA and NSW/Qld/SA are 'close' together to get to
>both AND to the 90deg corner in Qld.
>The only other one, Vic/NSW/SA I am hoping to attempt at Easter. But there
>is controversy surrounding the exact location of it (middle of river, south
>bank, and it is undecided where it is along a 2 mile stretch of river on top
>of that!
>
>Brendan
>
>
>>From: peter.smaardijk@...
>>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: museum map
>>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:31:31 -0000
>>
>>Are you sure there wasn't a pope's line in Australia? As far as I
>>know, according to the Tordesillas treaty a line was drawn somewhere
>>near 50 deg. west long. But the world was cut in half; so another line
>>should be running at approx. 130 deg. east long. Which cuts through
>>Australia. Possibly this wasn't explicitely stated at the time, and
>>anyway they were still a long way off this 'other side of the world'.
>>What mattered was the line in the Atlantic.
>>
>>Peter S.
>>
>>--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@h...> wrote:
>> > There wasn't a pope's line this end of the world, only in the
>>atlantic, so
>> > i'm not sure how that fits in. I hope to have more deatils when i
>>can get a
>> > colleague in Canberra to visit, once the crowds die down.
>> > It's a social history museum, so has Oz inventions like the motor
>>mower and
>> > the rotary clothes line, besides all important icon's like Phar
>>Lap's heart
>> > (tho Phar Lap as a kiwi horse!).
>> >
>> > B
>> >
>> > >From: michael donner <m@...>
>> > >Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@y...
>> > >To: BoundaryPoint@y...
>> > >Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] museum map
>> > >Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:53:22 -0500
>> > >
>> > >looks fantastic
>> > >
>> > >i wonder if they deliberately made it from an east timorese point
>>of view
>> > >
>> > >also how did they deliver on the popes line promise
>> > >
>> > >like did it have a branch separating the spanish from the
>>portuguese in the
>> > >east indies too
>> > >or what about that
>> > >
>> > >m
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >Here is an image of the mapping dreamscape at the new Canberra
>>museum.
>> > > >Photo from The Age, Sat 10/3/01, p13. North is pointing to the
>>lower left
>> > > >of the picture, the coastline being that of the Top End of the
>>Northern
>> > > >Territory.
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