Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: IQSYTR
Date: Feb 25, 2005 @ 23:34
Author: aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
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yes it should be but i believe
except for satellite views
our combined bb & bp cupboards are actually bare once
again
of the requested tripoint images
in all 5 cases
owing to expired links etc

& the 6th & most elusive of them is an unresolved
iqirkw territorial seas tripoint somewhere out in the
persian gulf
which remains only a hypothetical equidistance
trijunction


but of the 5 continental supposedly known ones
i believe the closest we still have to an actual image
is for iqkwsa
in the link given in
http://egroups.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/6509
which at least describes the point verbally as being
on the thalweg of the wadi al batin
& directly monumented by iqkw pillar number 1

so imagine a standing rock substantial enough to
withstand periodic flash floods at the bottom of a
steep dry wash


& for iqjosa
the only other one we have any real data on at all
you will have to split your imaginary image into at
least 2 parts
since we have identified both de facto & de jure
probabilities for it
as explained in
http://egroups.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11597

but again no visual images


& apart from these few & hard won gleanings
like the man says
happy hunting


& you are quite right about iraqi kurdistan
at least
as i see the present kurdish demands for autonomy are
already tantamount to independence


but you know this sort of situation is not unique to
kurdistan or to iraq or to the middle east

no nation would ever agree to be split up &
artificially distributed out of its independent
existence

yet it happens everywhere all the time
in a manner of speaking

--- Jesper Nielsen <jesniel@...> wrote:

> Happy tp hunting
>
> This should be a good entry point for all 5 of them.
>
>
http://www.nicolette.dk/borderbase/country.php?country=69
>
> Jesper
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sdrawkcabdom
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 8:04 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: IQSYTR
>
>
>
> I can see that it's still interesting to check
> these places out,
> despite thier 'inauthenticity', if you will.
> It's just that Kurdistan is a special case,
> especially now with the
> new government in Iraq. I was reading about this
> and apparently huge
> numbers of Iraqi Kurds want to see a Kurdish state
> set up, yet are
> happy to take part in Iraqi politics for the time
> being.
>
> All borders and reuslting tripoints are artificial
> of course, but
> some are more artificial then others. of course,
> Middle Eastern
> borders are all straight lines in the desert, but
> the seperate states
> are there now for better or worse. The Kurds would
> never have agreed
> to be split in four, hence these borders aren't
> just the usual line
> in the sand type but actually divide a people
> which just makes them
> seem overly-artificial, to me anyway.
>
> As a sidenote,
> I'd be interested to see Iraq's other tripoints.
> Surely there must be
> some images now? (there are now huge numbers of
> border images
> following the war - see GoogleImages).
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak"
> <aletheiak@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > thats an interesting point
> > whether one agrees with it or not
> >
> > & it might also be fun to look for iqsytr
> classmates
> > in similarly integral tricountry areas around
> the world
> >
> > like say afirpk
> > baluchistan perhaps
> > etc
> >
> > sort of like azcanv in the usa really being just
>
> > mohave stan
> >
> > or manyvt really being just
> > williams college stan
> >
> > or algatn really being just
> > tva stan
> >
> > etc if any
> >
> > for it is easy to overreach in the excitement
> for less & less
> > authenticity of stanhood
> > like say by assigning ilinmi & ilmiwi to
> > lake michigan stan
> > which i think would overdilute your basic nicety
> too much
> >
> > for it seems any list of truly integral triareas
> like iqsytr
> > on any given level
> > must be rather short & sweet at best
> > & probably always subject to some degree of
> arbitrariness
> > but perhaps still worth a look & a try
> >
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> "sdrawkcabdom"
> > <sdrawkcab8@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > > This tripoint is not as 'important' in my view
> - it's Kurdistan
> > > rather than three different countries.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> "aletheiak"
> > <aletheiak@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > this was a couple of years ago
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> "acroorca2002"
> > > > <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> "Jesper Nielsen"
> > > > <jesniel@i...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Possible tripoint island at IQSYTR:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
>
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/EART/iraq/200k/J38_25.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > bravo
> > > > > it looks plausible from here
> > > > > & could be unique in the world
> > > >
> > > > but on second thought
> > > > since all 3 of the pertinent ibs numbers for
> iqsytr
> > > > namely 27 & 100 & 163
> > > > place the boundaries on the thalwegs here
> > > > without qualification or exception
> > > > it would not appear so plausible after all
> > > >
> > > > & in any case
> > > > not nearly so plausible as a bggrtr tripoint
> on kavak island
> > now
> > > > appears
> > > > which really stands to be unique in the
> world to the best of
> > our
> > > > knowledge
> > > > despite being contradicted also by all 3 of
> the pertinent ibs
> > > > numbers
> > > > namely 41 & 49 & 56
>
>
>
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