yes & all these fairly obvious clashing realities you
recite here
& the still more pertinent & telling considerations
brought by volkan in 16766
which you may also have noticed
& others
are the reason why i am staying so tuned
clearly the entire greater bggrtr picture is highly
unstable &
in a word
hysterical
& for the moment
we have stumbled on the odd fact that everything in
this picture seems to have gotten focused just now
whether realistically or unrealistically or both
on this silly little triarea or tripoint island
which we & our stalwart expedition are coincidently
zeroing in on at the same time
so i dont expect any of us will get bored by this one
--- Wolfgang Schaub
<
Wolfgang.Schaub@...> wrote:
> The locals know already very well which mechanisms
> lead to release of
> European money. Any "friendship" declaration at the
> periphery makes the
> Brussels harmonists weep for joy. Note: Only Greece
> is in the EU, the others
> still train for membership; nevertheless, "our"
> money flows already in
> abundance.
>
> Speaking to Turks and Greeks "on the street" reveals
> that there is no
> friendship whatsoever: Just a year or two ago a
> military clash could barely
> be avoided when one or the other occupied a rock in
> the Aegean Sea. And this
> among NATO members. What is still missing towards
> friendship is a mutual
> agreement regulating compensation payments for
> damage caused in past wars
> between the three.
>
> Wolfgang
> -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: aletheiak [mailto:aletheiak@...]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Februar 2005 22:10
> An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] Re: BGGRTR picture
>
>
>
> well the newspaper may well be right about
> everything
>
> it does after all agree with that old soviet map
> even as everything it reports still sounds so
> purely fantastic &
> prospective
> when compared to the latest treaty we do know of
>
> but all these locals may well know something we
> dont
>
> so i will certainly stay tuned
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper
> Nielsen"
> <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > My reliable friend tells me the BG document says
> this:
> >
> > Island in Maritsa becomes example of Balkan
> co-operation
> > (2004-11-25) http:/focus-news.net//
> >
> > Island in the Maritsa river with an area of 340
> sq. m. might turn
> > into an "Island of peace and friendship between
> Turkey,
> Greece and
> > Bulgaria, the Turkish newspaper "Radikal"
> writes.
> >
> > An island in the Maritsa river with an area of
> 340 sq. m. might
> turn
> > into an "Island of peace and friendship between
> Turkey,
> Greece and
> > Bulgaria, the Turkish newspaper "Radikal"
> writes. This could
> take
> > place when the foreign offices of the three
> countries will
> approve of
> > the idea. The island is located exactly on the
> border and 170
> sq. m.
> > of it is Turkish territory, while Bulgaria and
> Greece each
> possess 85
> > sq. m. Regional representatives from the three
> sides approve
> of the
> > idea. A meeting in Greece was attended by
> Bulgaria in the
> person of
> > Georgi Zarchev, Khaskovo regional manager. The
> project
> includes
> > building football, basketball, volley-ball and
> light athletics
> > facilities, as well as an open air theatre with
> 1500 seats and a
> > conference hall for 200 people, a museum,
> restaurant, cafe
> and
> > children's playground. The regional executives
> hope to get
> about
> > 300.000 euro from EU funds to finance the
> project.
> >
> > Jesper
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: aletheiak
> > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] BGGRTR picture
> >
> >
> >
> > hey anything is possible
> > ibs to the contrary notwithstanding
> > since bggrtr could have been subsequently
> revised too
> > perhaps even in november 1998
> > per that trilateral news item you also found
> >
> > & tho this link just looks like a lot of
> question marks to me
> > i would definitely continue to suspend final
> judgment & check
> it
> > out further however possible
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper
> Nielsen"
> > <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > > A reliable friend of me, claims this
> document confirms a
> > tripoint on the
> > > island. 85 m2 of the island is Greek.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
http://www.malkiobyavi.com/pro/pic-news/news.php?newsid=27
> > 41
> > >
> > > Jesper
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@y...>
> > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: AW: [BoundaryPoint] BGGRTR
> picture
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > bravos jesper & wolfgang & marcel
> > > > & please do try to glean as much more data
> from the
> > > > text as you can
> > > > since this is not yet a clear bggrtr
> > > > but so far only a clear bgtr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > & yikes
> > > > these white lines on the ground could
> conceivably mark
> > > > some formal or informal bgtr biarea
> surrounded by a
> > > > bggrtr triarea
> > > > very interesting
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > but in any case the marker appears to be
> one of the
> > > > several known bgtr 320 series
> > > > all as detailed in
> > > >
> http://egroups.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/16582
> > > > very likely one of those shown in your map
> swatch on
> > > > kavak island
> > > > as last heard from in 16661
> > > >
> > > > & thus we do seem to me to be here in this
> pic not yet
> > > > in view of but still some unknown hundreds
> of feet
> > > > north of the most probable bggrtr tripoint
> position
> > > > specifically
> > > > between kavak island & the right bank of
> the maritsa
> > > > nearest grtr marker 1
> > > > per ibs 41 etc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > & it also isnt clear yet if we are even
> facing toward
> > > > the tripoint in this view
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > but of course we dont need a dry tripoint
> > > > nor do we even need to know where the
> tripoint is
> > > > to have a tripoint dance
> > > >
>
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