Subject: pensacola fl Re: abilene tx Re: still haskell & possibly last posts of 2004 bee pee Re: [BoundaryPoint] arcapora is ours
Date: Jan 02, 2005 @ 23:46
Author: aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
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My semi doubts about CRFLHALU were based on your non-mention of the now-overgrown diagonal road that shows so prominently on the topo and somewhat on the aerial. Obviously, much has changed since 1991 and 1995, respectively.I haven't researched the law on this, but I understand that it's a modern Texas legal requirement for road strips as you have described. When large tracts having public-road frontage are partitioned into smaller tracts, each smaller tract must include actual owned road frontage (rather than mere right-of-way easements). This is often accomplished by 30-foot-wide road strips. My land in Maverick County on the Mexican border fronts onto FM 1907. Between me and my eastern neighbor, there is a 30-foot road strip that is part of the tract behind the eastern neighbor. Between me and my western neighbor, there are TWO 30-foot road strips that belong to the respective tracts behind me and behind my western neighbor.Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA----- Original Message -----From: aletheia kallosSent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:59 PMSubject: abilene tx Re: still haskell & possibly last posts of 2004 bee pee Re: [BoundaryPoint] arcapora is oursok i do hear you but i spoke with aerial pix very much in view in that caseso i dont actually see what you mean herethe road shown arriving from the south on the topo is overgrown now & only the barbed wire avenue remains in the quadripoint vicinitythru which one can still maneuver a vehiclebut arriving from the east only as i didon a cotton bale road not shown on the topowhile the eastwest avenue is represented by barbed wire in diagonally opposite counties onlyhence no actual avenue is visible but it can be inferred from the barbed wire that is thereso thats the 10yard squareif you followwithin which or at the edge of which i agree the topo shows a quadripoint rockbut you know seeing is better than believing& seeing it on a map is only believing you are seeing& yes of course i do wish i had gone with topo in hand now that i see the delicacy of the situationhahahahahabut thats not how she wrote itstill better yet however & as if to underscore the above pointi have completed my try for bahaknth in the interim& thus can report the lone star tour is completewith only 2 out of the 5 presumed rocks actually recovered& btw i would call these 5 visits class ababc respectively if feeling generous& at least aeaed in any casesince the jury is still out in several casesif you will pardon my legal conceitbut anyway the point is that tho i sought bahaknth with both a usgs topo & the roads of texas map in hand& with both of them showing a quadripoint rocki could see no monument whatsoever in broad daylight at 750 foot rangeso call it only a damn good class dgazing thru 6strand barbed wire i couldnt crawl underto the target point in overgrazed irrigated range from which not a blade of grass rose more than 2 inches above the well trampled plainso i can swear bahaknth is unmonumentedlet alone by anything of texan staturetho i grant it may still be marked by a humble disk in a cowflop of cement that i couldnt see& about farm machinery & monumentsi did find crgaluly interrupting a huge irrigation rotation cycleso these ranchers definitely do know how to make their equipment dodge the monuments &or markers if they put their mind to it& now i believe it is already practically auld lang time for me since this library is closing soonthis excellent library where i imagine now i may have posted a similar pre new year message last year tooor is it only deja vu& who knows if i will find any internet possibility tomorrow on the way to goldthwaiteetc etcso yikes & beeps & thanx all
"Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...> wrote:Mike,I do feel like I'm there with you, and I'm enjoying the trip.Having seen the aerial of CRFLHALU, I'm not entirely sure from your description that you actually found it. When you see the aerial, perhaps you'll see what I mean. Things could have changed in the nine years since the aerial, so I could be wrong.Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA----- Original Message -----From: aletheia kallosSent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:40 PMSubject: still haskell & possibly last posts of 2004 bee pee Re: [BoundaryPoint] arcapora is oursthanx again & againyou are with me here you knowwell you all are actually& so next i blasted off again from the plainview library as i think it was thentoward crflhalu aka star tour point 2with starry eyed expectations of finding that needle in haystack triangulation stationor whatever it was supposed to beor at least giving it a mighty careful halloo& with careful interplay again between outer odometer & inner pedometeradvancing both eastward & then southward too from petersburgwhich was my only reference point btw on an otherwise blank grid in the puzzle i was solvingamazingly i was able to find the undoubtedly correct 30foot squareset off by paired barbed wire intervals suggesting unused road allowances& was then able to estimate the most central square yard in turn within this 10yard squarefor a very credible & creditable class b visit as i thought thento the position of an otherwise naked or unfindable reference pointan extremely careful halloo i thoughtwithin this actual but to me still invisible overview& mind youthis was all done without benefit of anything more than my national road atlas actuallyvery gratifying it wasbut i was still feeling unsure enough about the truth of this visit to want to check into the nearest library & internetat lubbock actuallyfor some confirmation& maybe to get some more maps in case i really did need them& report in to bp etcbut the lubbock gollirama theme park was even more astoundingly follirama than its amarillo counterparkso i could do none of the above except check my crflhalu try in the roads of texas atlas you had begun fromwith some continuing rejoicing at what i saw there at least& i did take the opportunity also to xerox the roads of texas cuts for the remaining 3 points on the tournamely crgaluly & codikimo & bahaknthwhich i then proceeded toward in that sequencerather than be inspired to return to crflhalu for a retry based on anything i had seen at that timetho i might have felt differently if i had known of your new addition & knew it to be correct toowhich i still cant be any more sure of on the aerial pic than i can for bodahoma btwor yikes even than for arcapora & crgalulyboth of which i have seen on the ground but still cant from the airfor yesthis report is also a confirmation that crgaluly too is ours my friends since yesterday as wella battered 5foot reinforced concrete pyramoid much in the style of arcapora but with its upper edges fluted & its top disk showing cardinal abbrevs separating all 4 county nameslooking hand stamped rather than engraved& including a similar central voidin which the 4corner point can only be inferred but not actually seen in diagramdate guess 1934& by then things had gotten really interesting for me2 visits class aplusa valiant class bso thats looking perfect or better on 3 for 3& feeling just that good i blasted off again directly for codikimoby back roads hopefully all publicacross yellow house canyonaka the double mountain fork of the brazos riverbut noi was soon entering private property posted no entry except on business etc etcyet private property so desolate i decided to play dumb & tresspass anyway& was doing pretty good til i hit the stream fordwhich was looking pretty hairy& i stopped & got out & looked & looked & tested & tested & thought & thought& finally dared to blast across itfishtailing thru the deep mud all the way & even getting the interior floor wet & almost drowning the engine but still barreling & coughing thru & up to dry land againit was the narrowest close call & escape i can recall ever having from anything& yikes getting stuck would surely have meant getting caught toohahahahahai howled in satisfaction even as the engine was still misfiring hideously& of course it recovered in a few hundred more yards as it burned the water offall which however didnt at all dampen my enthusiasm for the chasewhich reached the codikimo vicinity shortly after midnight under a nearly full moonat what was certainly the high point of the entire tour thus farso let me just post this much so you can stay abreastwhile i continue cobbling together what happened next
"Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...> wrote:Congratulations on your success! I was glad to be of help.Your next two "triangulation station" quadripoints are shown by USGS as nicely monumented, so maybe they won't be too hard to spot.Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA----- Original Message -----From: aletheia kallosSent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 1:47 PMSubject: [BoundaryPoint] arcapora is oursthat armstrong carson potter randall quadricounty point virgin beauty& prima donna megapoint of the texas tertiarywas successfully visited earlier today class athanx substantially to our strong silent & uncannily trusty local informant tex mcmanusheralded by & visible from the capo county line signs on federal highway 287it is monumented by a somewhat battered & misshapen 3foot reinforced concrete pyramoid with a footsquare horizontal top in lieu of capthe overall form is much like a bradstreet 1924 model as recently described for az3mayubut with a copper disk embedded in its topon the disk are engraved the names of the 4 counties in positions suggesting the 4 quadrantsbut the precise 4corner point location in their midst is not actually marked& has to be inferred geometricallywhich can be done with confidence actually only down to about the correct square semicentimeterbut an index finger tip covers & fudges all that just finedate guess 1927the usual barbed wire crawlplus an open ballpark or so to run in view of a ranch house& remember we are in texas nowso even any slight tresspass is likely to be taken very seriously indeedof course heightening the fun of the chase& the cold turkey approach was so satisfying that i have decided to try to complete the entire 5pointed star tour cold turkey if possible before resorting to any further mapperythis may border on the footloose & fancy free howeversince the next 2 points i will be trying at leastnamely crflhalu & crgalulyare indicated not as monumented points necessarily but only as triangulation stationsso they could be something else than arcapora entirely & harder to spotbut we shall see
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