Subject: abilene tx Re: still haskell & possibly last posts of 2004 bee pee Re: [BoundaryPoint] arcapora is ours<br/>
Date: Dec 31, 2004 @ 01:59<br/>
Author: aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos &lt;aletheiak@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1310425112"><div>ok i do hear you but i spoke with aerial pix very much&nbsp;in view&nbsp;in that case</div>
<div>so i dont actually see what you mean here</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>the road shown arriving from the south on the topo is&nbsp;overgrown now &amp; only the barbed wire avenue remains in the quadripoint vicinity </div>
<div>thru which one can still maneuver a vehicle </div>
<div>but arriving&nbsp;from the east only as i did&nbsp;</div>
<div>on a cotton bale road not shown on the topo</div>
<div>while the eastwest avenue is represented by barbed wire&nbsp;in&nbsp;diagonally opposite&nbsp;counties only</div>
<div>hence no actual avenue is visible but it can be inferred from the barbed wire that is there</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>so thats&nbsp;the 10yard square</div>
<div>if you follow</div>
<div>within which or at the edge of which i agree the topo shows a quadripoint rock</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>but you know seeing is better than believing</div>
<div>&amp; seeing it on a map is only believing you are seeing</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; yes&nbsp;of course i do wish i had gone with topo in hand now that i see the delicacy of the situation</div>
<div>hahahahaha</div>
<div>but thats not how she wrote it</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>still&nbsp;better yet however &amp; as if to underscore the above point</div>
<div>i have completed my try for bahaknth in the interim</div>
<div>&amp; thus can report the lone&nbsp;star tour is complete</div>
<div>with only 2 out of the 5 presumed rocks actually recovered</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; btw i would call&nbsp;these 5 visits&nbsp;class ababc respectively if feeling generous</div>
<div>&amp;&nbsp;at least aeaed in any case&nbsp;</div>
<div>since the jury is still out in several cases</div>
<div>if you will pardon&nbsp;my legal conceit&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>but anyway&nbsp;the point is that&nbsp;tho i sought bahaknth with both a usgs topo &amp;&nbsp;the roads of texas map in hand</div>
<div>&amp; with both of them showing a quadripoint rock</div>
<div>i could see no monument whatsoever&nbsp;in broad daylight at 750 foot range</div>
<div>so call it only a damn good&nbsp;class d</div>
<div>gazing thru 6strand barbed wire i couldnt crawl under</div>
<div>to the target point in&nbsp;overgrazed irrigated range from which not a blade of grass rose more than 2 inches above the well&nbsp;trampled plain</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>so i can swear&nbsp;bahaknth is&nbsp;unmonumented </div>
<div>let alone by anything of texan stature&nbsp;</div>
<div>tho i grant it may still be marked by a humble disk in a cowflop of cement that i couldnt see</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; about farm machinery &amp; monuments</div>
<div>i did find crgaluly interrupting a huge irrigation rotation cycle</div>
<div>so these ranchers definitely do know how to make their equipment dodge the monuments &amp;or markers if they put their mind to it<br></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; now i believe it is&nbsp;already practically&nbsp;auld lang time for me since this library is closing soon </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>this excellent library where i imagine now&nbsp;i may have posted a similar pre new year message last year too</div>
<div>or is it only&nbsp;deja vu</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; who knows if i will find any internet possibility&nbsp;tomorrow on the way to goldthwaite</div>
<div>etc etc</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>so yikes &amp; beeps &amp; thanx all</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><br><b><i>&quot;Lowell G. McManus&quot; &lt;mcmanus71496@...&gt;</i></b> wrote:</div>
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<div><font size="2">Mike,</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">I do feel like I&#39;m there with you, and I&#39;m enjoying the trip.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Having seen the aerial of&nbsp; CRFLHALU, I&#39;m not entirely sure from your description that you actually found it.&nbsp; When you see the aerial, perhaps you&#39;ll see what I mean.&nbsp; Things could have changed in the nine years since the aerial, so I could be wrong.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Lowell G. McManus<br>Leesville, Louisiana, USA</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;FONT:10pt arial;"><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="aletheiak@..." target="_blank" href="mailto:aletheiak@...">aletheia kallos</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:40 PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> still haskell &amp; possibly last posts of 2004 bee pee Re: [BoundaryPoint] arcapora is ours</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>thanx again &amp; again</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>you are with me here you know</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>well you all are actually</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; so next i blasted off again from the plainview library as i think it was then</div>
<div>toward crflhalu aka star tour point 2</div>
<div>with starry eyed expectations of finding that needle in haystack triangulation station </div>
<div>or whatever it was supposed to be</div>
<div>or at least giving it a mighty careful halloo</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; with careful interplay again between outer odometer &amp; inner pedometer</div>
<div>advancing both eastward &amp; then southward too from petersburg</div>
<div>which was my only reference point&nbsp;btw on an otherwise blank grid in the puzzle i was solving</div>
<div>amazingly i was&nbsp;able to find the undoubtedly correct 30foot square</div>
<div>set off by paired barbed wire intervals suggesting unused road allowances</div>
<div>&amp; was then able to estimate the most central square yard in turn within this 10yard square</div>
<div>for a very credible &amp; creditable class b visit as i thought then</div>
<div>to the position of an otherwise naked or unfindable reference point</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>an extremely careful halloo i thought </div>
<div>within this actual but to me still&nbsp;invisible overview</div>
<div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=2&amp;S=15&amp;Z=14&amp;X=40&amp;Y=585&amp;W=18&amp;qs=%7cpetersburg%7ctx">http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=2&amp;S=15&amp;Z=14&amp;X=40&amp;Y=585&amp;W=18&amp;qs=%7cpetersburg%7ctx</a></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; mind you</div>
<div>this was all done without benefit of anything more than my national road atlas actually</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>very gratifying it was</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>but i was still feeling unsure enough about the truth of this visit to want to check into the nearest library &amp; internet </div>
<div>at lubbock actually</div>
<div>for some confirmation</div>
<div>&amp; maybe to get some more maps in case i really did need them</div>
<div>&amp; report in to bp etc</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>but the lubbock gollirama theme park&nbsp;was even more astoundingly follirama than its amarillo counterpark</div>
<div>so i could do none of the above except check my crflhalu try in the roads of texas atlas you had begun from</div>
<div>with some continuing&nbsp;rejoicing at what i saw there at least</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; i did take the opportunity also to xerox the roads of texas cuts for the remaining 3 points on the tour</div>
<div>namely crgaluly &amp; codikimo &amp; bahaknth</div>
<div>which i then proceeded toward in that sequence</div>
<div>rather than be inspired to&nbsp;return to crflhalu for a retry based on anything i had seen at that time</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>tho i might have felt differently if i had&nbsp;known of&nbsp;your new addition &amp; knew it to be correct too</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>which i still cant be any more sure of on the aerial pic than i can for bodahoma btw</div>
<div>or yikes even than for&nbsp;arcapora&nbsp;&amp; crgaluly</div>
<div>both of which i have seen on the ground but still cant from the air</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>for yes </div>
<div>this report&nbsp;is also a confirmation that crgaluly too is ours my friends since yesterday as well</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>a battered 5foot reinforced concrete pyramoid much in the style of arcapora but with its upper edges fluted &amp; its top disk&nbsp;showing cardinal abbrevs&nbsp;separating all 4 county names </div>
<div>looking hand stamped rather than engraved </div>
<div>&amp; including a similar central void </div>
<div>in which the 4corner point&nbsp;can only&nbsp;be inferred but not actually seen in diagram</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>date guess 1934</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; by then things had&nbsp;gotten really interesting for me</div>
<div>2 visits class a</div>
<div>plus</div>
<div>a valiant class b</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>so thats looking perfect or better on 3 for 3</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; feeling just that good i blasted off again directly for codikimo</div>
<div>by back roads hopefully all public </div>
<div>across yellow house canyon&nbsp;</div>
<div>aka&nbsp;the double mountain fork of the brazos river</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>but no</div>
<div>i was soon entering private property posted no entry except on business etc etc</div>
<div>yet&nbsp;private property so desolate i decided to play dumb &amp; tresspass anyway</div>
<div>&amp; was doing pretty good til i hit the stream ford</div>
<div>which was looking pretty hairy</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; i stopped &amp; got out &amp; looked &amp; looked &amp; tested &amp; tested &amp; thought &amp; thought</div>
<div>&amp; finally dared to blast across it&nbsp;</div>
<div>fishtailing thru the deep&nbsp;mud all the way&nbsp;&amp; even getting&nbsp;the interior&nbsp;floor wet &amp; almost&nbsp;drowning&nbsp;the engine but still barreling &amp; coughing thru &amp; up to dry land again</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>it was the narrowest close call &amp; escape i can recall ever having from anything</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; yikes getting stuck would surely have meant getting caught too</div>
<div>hahahahaha</div>
<div>i&nbsp;howled in satisfaction&nbsp;even as the engine was still misfiring hideously</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; of course it&nbsp;recovered in a few hundred more yards as it burned the water off</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>all which however&nbsp;didnt at all dampen my enthusiasm for the chase </div>
<div>which reached the codikimo vicinity shortly after midnight under a nearly full moon</div>
<div>at what was certainly the high point of the entire tour thus far</div>
<div>so let me just post this much so you can&nbsp;stay abreast&nbsp;</div>
<div>while i continue&nbsp;cobbling together&nbsp;what happened next</div>
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<div><br><b><i>&quot;Lowell G. McManus&quot; &lt;mcmanus71496@...&gt;</i></b> wrote:</div>
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<div><font size="2">Congratulations on your success!&nbsp; I was glad to be of help.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Your next two &quot;triangulation station&quot; quadripoints are shown by USGS as nicely monumented, so maybe they won&#39;t be too hard to spot.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Lowell G. McManus<br>Leesville, Louisiana, USA</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;FONT:10pt arial;"><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="aletheiak@..." target="_blank" href="mailto:aletheiak@...">aletheia kallos</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 29, 2004 1:47 PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> [BoundaryPoint] arcapora is ours</div>
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<div>that armstrong carson potter randall quadricounty point virgin beauty&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp; prima donna&nbsp;megapoint of the&nbsp;texas tertiary&nbsp;</div>
<div>was successfully&nbsp;visited earlier today class a</div>
<div>thanx substantially to our strong silent &amp; uncannily trusty local informant tex mcmanus</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>heralded&nbsp;by &amp; visible from the capo county line signs on federal&nbsp;highway 287</div>
<div>it is monumented by a somewhat battered &amp; misshapen&nbsp;3foot&nbsp;reinforced concrete pyramoid with a footsquare horizontal top in lieu of cap</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>the&nbsp;overall form is&nbsp;much like a bradstreet 1924 model as recently described&nbsp;for az3mayu</div>
<div>but with a copper disk embedded in its&nbsp;top</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>on&nbsp;the disk&nbsp;are&nbsp;engraved the names of the 4 counties&nbsp;in positions suggesting the&nbsp;4 quadrants</div>
<div>but&nbsp;the precise 4corner point location in their midst is not actually&nbsp;marked </div>
<div>&amp; has to be inferred geometrically</div>
<div>which can be done with confidence actually only down to about the correct square semicentimeter</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>but an index&nbsp;finger tip covers &amp; fudges all&nbsp;that just fine</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>date guess 1927</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>the usual barbed wire crawl&nbsp;</div>
<div>plus an open&nbsp;ballpark&nbsp;or so to&nbsp;run in view of a ranch house</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp;&nbsp;remember we are in texas now</div>
<div>so even any slight&nbsp;tresspass is likely to be&nbsp;taken very seriously indeed</div>
<div>of course heightening the fun&nbsp;of the chase </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&amp;&nbsp;the cold turkey approach&nbsp;was so satisfying&nbsp;that i have decided to try to&nbsp;complete the entire 5pointed star&nbsp;tour&nbsp;cold turkey if possible before resorting to any further mappery</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>this may border on the&nbsp;footloose &amp; fancy free&nbsp;however</div>
<div>since the next 2 points i will be trying at least&nbsp;</div>
<div>namely crflhalu &amp; crgaluly</div>
<div>are&nbsp;indicated not as monumented points&nbsp;necessarily&nbsp;but only as triangulation stations</div>
<div>so they could be something else than arcapora entirely &amp;&nbsp;harder to spot</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>but we shall see</div>
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