Have anybody in this group ever found minutes of negotations of border treaties?
I have tried with the DEDK 1920 border, but have only found archives of
letters to and from the DK commission. Nobody else knowns of any other records.
The archives of the plebiscite got lost in WW2.
Jesper
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>From: "Wolfgang Schaub" <Wolfgang.Schaub@...>
>Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:10:55 +0100
>Subject: AW: [BoundaryPoint] Vennbahn enclaves
>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>Pretty good, Brendan. With the uninhabited/inhabited distinction I am coming
closer to the solution, but you are right: The minutes of the negotiations
would be fine to have. Thank you,
Wolfgang
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Von: Brendan
>Whyte [mailto:bwhyte@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. November 2004 23:13
An:
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] Vennbahn enclaves
My understanding of this is that Belgium wanted the railway and all land
in
> between. Germany didn't want to give up any land. After long arguments
and
discussions, Belgium got the railway and uninhabited land, i the forests.
Germany got left with the inhabited land, ie the farms, agricultural land
and farmhouses west
>of the railway.
The forests going to Belgium were partly in compensation for the Belgian
forests the Germans destroyed during the war.
Thus the enclaves today are basically farms land and hamlets. The single
house owned by Mr Call was pre
>umably the same thing: a small farm: house
and several fields. Perhaps the owner had more fields on the other side
of
the railway in 1920. You need to look at German 1:25,000 maps for c.1920
to
check where the forests etc came to at that time
>
If the agreement was to leave habitations to Germany and uninhabited land
to Belgium, then this explains all 5 enclaves. But one would have to
locate
the minutes of the negotiations to be sure. Are these in Brussels,
Versailles, Berlin, o
> London???
>Hello fans,
>
>This will be my last question for a while, and the most difficult:
>
>What is the reason for the Entenpfuhl enclave?
>
>Some of you will know it is the smallest of the Vennbahn enclaves, German
>>little particles inside Belgium, separated from mainland Germany by the
>track of the Vennbahn. Entenpfuhl (Entepol) is the name of the land
opposite
>the enclave, beyond the railway track. The enclave itself is called
>Rueckschlag.
>
>The history of the Vennbahn enclaves is described in the Internet in some
>detail. After WWII Belgium had pushed its borders a little eastwards
into
>Germany, BUT: Why did they spare the Entenpfuhl enclave, some 100 x 150
>yards?
>
>What
>makes me suspicious is a house (the only house) placed in the
enclave
>territory, and this has the address "Auf Aderich 33". Entering "Auf
Aderich
>33" in Google produces the owner of the house:
>
>Dieter Call, Auf Aderich 33 - Am Venngar
>en - 52156 Konzen - Tel: 02472 -
21
>48 or 0173-5682325, Fax: 02472 - 2148, E-Mail: dietercall@...,
>Internet: www.dietercall.de
>
>Dieter does not respond to my mails, which is his good right to do.
>
>Before I call him directl
>, is there anybody amongst you who can explain
why
>Entenpfuhl is an enclave and what does the house have to do with it?
>
>Wolfgang
>
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