Hi,
just to update the links:

the Teutonic Order Link is still working,

the article of the Ohlsdorf Cemetary about Campo Santo Teutonico now
can be found at http://tinyurl.com/4xt5x

the multitasking austrian ambassador now can be found at
http://tinyurl.com/5js99

Regards, Chris

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Anton Florian Zeilinger"
<anton_zeilinger@h...> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> a few years ago I visited the Camposanto Teutonico and attended mass

there.

> Everything there is "German", i.e. signs, missals, etc.
> It is however not the seat of the German ambassador to the Holy See,

but

> belongs to some kind of German foundation, whose head interestingly

enough

> is the Austrian president. As far as I remember it is cared for by

the

> Teutonic Order, one of the last chivalric orders of the Catholic

Church,

> similar to the Order of Malta.
>
> Its seat is in Vienna, they have a homepage, see
>
> http://www.dtorden.or.at/
>
> I found an article in German about the cemetary, where it says that

since

> the Lateran treaty, the status of this small piece of land is
> "extraterritorial", "not part of the Vatican" and "similar to an

embassy".

> Apparently, during the second world war Jews and enemies of the

Mussolini

> regime were able to stay there unharmed due to this special status.
>
> The page I found has several interesting articles about other

"national"

> cemetaries in foreign countries, see:
>
> http://www.ohlsdorf-online.de/ohl-72/ohl-72.html#campo
>
> By the way, some countries have special ambassadors accredited to

the Holy

> See, separate from the regular embassy to Italy. An example is

Austria,

> where the ambassador is accredited to the Holy See, the Order of

Malta and

> San Marino, see:
>
>

http://www.bmaa.gv.at/botschaften/mission-info/bma
aMission.cgi?mode=oeinausland&command=content&country=Heiliger

> Stuhl
>
> Hope I could help,
> greetings,
> Anton Z
>
>
> >From: "lnadybal" <lnadybal@h...>
> >Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [BoundaryPoint] German Exclave in the Vatican
> >Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 23:24:02 -0000
> >
> >I just posted a photo from a 1972 article I've saved for years that
> >pictures the Camp Santo Teutonico which is surrounded by the

building

> >that houses the Teutonic College, just to the west of St. Peters.
> >I've tried for years to learn how this came to be and to learn what
> >German official administers it.
> >
> >Does anyone have any insight?
> >
> >Is the whole building that surrounds the cemetary

extraterritorial, or

> >just the cemetary within the walls?
> >
> >The existence of this piece of land with this status begs the

question

> >as to whether the barracks of the Swiss guards have any
> >extraterritorial status we never hear about? Are there any other
> >extraterritorial or diplomatic enclaves in the Vatican proper, or

are

> >all countries that have relations with the Holy See represented by
> >ambassadors who are housed outside the Vatican at ther missions to
> >Italy?
> >
> >I know that during WWII there were diplomats who were "trapped" in

the

> >Vatican, in some cases for years, but I don't think their presence
> >there made the ground they stood on or the rooms in which they
> >performed their official magic at any given time, into little

mobile

> >extraterritorial pieces of wherever it was that they had come from.
> >But even though I don't think that, it could have been. No?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Len Nadybal
> >
> >
> >Len Nadybal
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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