aha
ok thanks
just as i suspected

& since the marker isnt official
then how do we know if it actually marks the quadripoint
or if it actually mismarks it

the answer to this evidently is
we dont know

so then
how might we learn exactly where the quadripoint does fall

& the answer to this is
either
by sighting thru 2 pairs of intervisible monuments
if indeed the border cross is marked by such
which however has never been reported

or else
if such a methodology does not in fact obtain there
then only by using the geocoords given in the cadastral records
& searching for them with a high powered gps receiver

but clearly & happily
we do still very much appear to have somewhere to go there

& just for the record
can anyone actually provide the legal geocoords of the quadpoint
or of the sighting markers if any
so at least we will know exactly where we do need to go

another line of questions
tho a far less interesting & pressing one
is
who did install the pipe
& what did they use for accuracy
or were they just guessing

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Brendan Whyte
<bwhyte@u...> wrote:

>
>
> The pipe has no official status. It simply tells the farmers

where the

> point is when they plant and harvest their fields (the field

around the

> pipe usually grows corn). When I was there (Oct 2000), one

quarter of the

> field had been harvested, using the pipe as a marker.
>
> Remember that there are no fences along the international

boundary, but

> rather the boundary here runs across a field, forming an x. The

pipe simply

> marks the middle of the x.
>
> But it is not an officially measured border monument, although

it may have

> been placed since the 1994 delimitation of the boundaries of

the enclaves.

>
> Brendan