Subject: Re: Nations within countries
Date: Jun 09, 2004 @ 13:04
Author: acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Stavro Blofeld <
blofeld_es@y...> wrote:
> Peers,
>
> This may be slightly off topic

off what topic

, and if you find it to
> be just please ignore.

of course it is just
& ok
if i do
but why

> I am curious of the status of certain native-american
> communities. Could someone in our group clarify and/or
> comment on the matter?

yes

> For example, what is the legal status of some
> communities?

i believe about 560 tribes have been legally recognized as sovereign
with new ones still being added
but all the rest arent

> Is it correct to use the term "nation"?

usually the terms tribe & nation are practically interchangeable
depending perhaps on the size of the tribe &or on who is speaking

> Are there examples of stand-alone legislation in some
> cases?

if you mean
are any indian nations legally recognized as such in american law
as distinct from indian tribes
then i am not aware of any

> How much self-government is implemented?

they implement as much as they can get & handle

sort of like kurds

> Do all
> native-american societies enjoy the same rights and
> responsibilities, or is this a matter of negotiation
> between the federal (or state?) government and the
> society in question?

partly answered above
but of course it is a huge patchwork
complicated especially by the gambling laws of perhaps as many as 40
different states
while tribal governments too are notoriously chaotic & idiosyncratic

> And how is membership in and/or
> affiliation with a certain nation/community/society
> determined?

by percentage of alcohol in blood
er
i mean
by percentage of indian blood
which varies
but is typically as low as 25 percent

> Is this a question of the bloodline,
> territorial heritage or something else?

genealogical usually
& sometimes a minimum residence requirement on the rezzie
but of course it is a mess

>
> Thank you,
> M

you are most welcome

& tho you dont ask directly
of course the question of what real sovereignty really means keeps
coming up in this connection too
just as it does in kurdistan
& all iraq
& indeed it seems everywhere lately

but i believe sovereignty is really just divinity
which every individual human being has equally
while in the illusion of physical reality
sovereignty of course just boils down to
a localized monopoly on violence


strange conundrum indeed