Subject: aocg & euru was Re: Sastavci
Date: Jun 05, 2004 @ 01:21
Author: acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
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> Hi,Lithuania (the surrounding countries) joined the EU
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> Does someone know current border arrangement in:
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> 1. Russian exclave of the Kaliningrad after Poland and
>were hundreds of
> 2. Angolan exclave of Cabinda inside DR of Congo?
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> Regards,
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> Gio
> Brendan Whyte <bwhyte@u...> wrote:
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> >From: "kontikipaul"
> >Subject: Re: Sastavci (BH enclave in Serbia)
> >
> >As a former UN peacekeeper in Sarajevo for 2 years there
> >'enclaves' littered around former Yugoslavia. Republikacontrast to the
> >Srpska (serb republic) is an ethnic area of BiH that is in
> >rest of Bosnia (Croat and Muslim federation).access,
> >
> > The enclave of Croatia that allows Bosnia to have sea
> > (Dubrovnik) I thought was the last true, delineated enclave.Parts
> >of Kosovo now have Serb enclaves that will be part of Serbiaand
> >Montenegro sooner or later.**totally**
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> Let me clarify:
> an enclave is a part of one country (or other political unit)
> surrounded by another. It is not an 'ethnic enclave', nor a part ofone
> country surrounded by more than one other country, or acoastal fragment.
> Certainly the enclave of Sastavci is not mentioned by Catudalbecause
> a) the border in question was internal, not international, untilc.1990, and
> b) Sastavci doesn't appear to have existed as an enclave until1990 at any
> level. I have Yugoslav maps from the 1940s to 1970s thatshow Sastavci as
> and integral and connected part of BH.such because
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> Thus most of what you describe as 'enclaves' are not in fact
> they are not political units, they have a coast (ie Dubrovnik), ormore
> than one neighbour, etc. They might be popularly termed so inthe press,
> but I am using the word enclave in the technical geographicalsense.
>part of BH embedded
> Several recent maps now show Sastavci as a disconnected
> in Serbia, ie the Serbians have somehow, somewhenacquired the land between
> Sastavci and the rest of BH, thus enclaving it. The border is notshown as
> in dispute, claimed etc, but as a distinct line. The question ofthe
> ethnicity of the inhabitants (and whether this differed betweenpre 1990 &
> currently) is a completely separate issue.boundary: has
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> My question is on what basis are these maps showing this
> there been some interim/final agreement that has establishedthe enclave?
> If so, what/when (and then why) are these?a land
> and does the enclave currently still exist, given previous talk of
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