tho their exact times vary from season to season & year to year
each of the 4 moments of planetary seasonal progression that
occurs in the course of each annual cycle
happens simultaneously everywhere on earth
these 4 special changes are not like any common witching or
twitching hour
such as midnight on new years eve
which sweeps westward across the face of the earth in 24 hourly
stagger steps
perhaps with a few extra lurches for some local variations
nor btw could these astronomical changes have anything to do
with setting clocks back or forward for daylight savings time
even if such an adjustment were synchronized with an equinox
or a solstice
nor can ones experience of these astronomical seasonal
progressions be altered in any way by changing ones position
eastward or westward
whether in relation to a time zone border or otherwise
instead
at these 4 precise universal moments only
everyone on earth is
however fleetingly
in at least 2 seasons
the old & the new
while all who happen to be on the equator are in 4 seasons
the old & the new in both hemispheres north & south
thus everywhere on the equator is in 4 astronomical seasons at
4 variable & fugitive moments every year
what i think jesper may have been thinking of is that a person
observing say the danish meteorological seasonal change while
standing at a time zone border on the equator would be
experiencing 2 different danish civil meteorological seasons
say spring & summer at midnight june 1
plus
2 different planetary or astronomical seasons
in fact still spring & fall at that moment & for about 3 more weeks
& no winter of any kind yet
this makes a danish apple & global pineapple pizza
with 3 slices at most
& the 2 different toppings on no more than 1 of these
a slice of spring with danish meteorological & northern
hemispherical topping
& a slice of summer with danish meteorological topping only
& a slice of autumn with southern hemispherical topping only
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael Kaufman
<mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> How could these pizzas occur at all points on the
> Equator? Unless the pizza you speak of is of the
> two-slice variety. Since the sun will reach the
> tropic at one particular instant, it is then that the
> seasons will change for the entire world. Which I
> think is what you mean, but correct me if not.
>
> --- acroorca2002 <orc@o...> wrote:
> > hey all you misspeakers
> > including myself
> > yikes
> > these convergences of quadriseasonality actually
> > occur at the
> > moment points of both solstices
> > a n d
> > of both equinoxes
> >
> > which btw arent limited to the 20th & 21st days of
> > their months
> > but can sometimes reach even the 23rd
> >
> > also these pizzas occur not just where time zone
> > borders
> > intersect the equator
> > nor only just on dry land either
> > but everywhere on the equator
> >
> >
> > note
> > all these celestial events only happen once
> > in universal time
> > but are observed at a different local time in all
> > the zones
> >
> >
> > didnt mean to rain on your parades
> >
> > & it is still a great idea on some level
> >
> >
> > for the now moot but perhaps still interesting
> > borneo data
> > http://www.worldtimezone.com
> > http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/world_tzones.html
> > etc
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Flynn, Kevin"
> >
> > <flynnk@r...> wrote:
> > > Must be a political choice, then. But the actual
> > change to winter
> > or summer
> > > is determined by the earth and the sun, at the
> > precise second
> > when the sun
> > > is directly above the tropic of cancer or
> > capricorn (I misspoke in
> > the
> > > earlier post -- I meant summer or winter solstice,
> > not equinox).
> > That time
> > > and day can vary each year. The change to autumn
> > or spring is
> > marked by the
> > > precise time when the sun transits the equator and
> > enters the
> > other
> > > hemisphere.
> > >
> > > This year, the solstice occurs at 00:48 GMT on
> > June 21.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jesper Nielsen [mailto:jesniel@i...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:49 PM
> > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Four seasons
> > quadropoints
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, in Denmark is has always been on June 1.
> > >
> > > June 20 or 21 is the longest day.
> > >
> > > Jesper
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Flynn, Kevin <mailto:flynnk@r...>
> > > To: 'BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com'
> > <mailto:'BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com'>
> > >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:08 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Four seasons
> > quadropoints
> > >
> > > It wouldn't be on June 1; it would be at the
> > precise clock time
> > on June 20
> > > or 21, whenever the equinox is. The official start
> > of the new
> > season is the
> > > precise point in time when the sun crosses the
> > line of the
> > equator, not a
> > > particular day.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jesper Nielsen [mailto:jesniel@i...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 10:17 AM
> > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Four seasons quadropoints
> > >
> > >
> > > Sounds like a pizza, doesn't it?
> > >
> > > Well, have you wondered where you can stand in
> > four seasons
> > at the same
> > > time? Probably not. Well here is the answer:
> > >
> > > 1) On the Columbian-Brazil border:
> > > http://tinyurl.com/25anb
> > <http://tinyurl.com/25anb>
> > >
> > > 2) Internal Brazil: Boundary of Para and Amapa:
> > > http://www.brazilhouston.org/ingles/fusohora.gif
> > > <http://www.brazilhouston.org/ingles/fusohora.gif>
> >
> > > http://bloggle.com/coffee/brazil-map.jpg
> > > <http://bloggle.com/coffee/brazil-map.jpg>
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2qsj8
> > <http://tinyurl.com/2qsj8>
> > >
> > > 3) Internal DR Congo: Boundary of Equateur and
> > Orientale
> > > http://tinyurl.com/3hmmj
> > <http://tinyurl.com/3hmmj>
> > >
> > > 4) On DR Congo-Uganda border:
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2c5ck
> > <http://tinyurl.com/2c5ck>
> > >
> > > Explanation?
> > >
> > > From June 1st N of Equator starts summer, S of
> > Equator starts
> > winter
> > > Each N-S boundary about also marks a time zone
> > boundary
> > > so W of the line is one hour behind E of the line.
> > >
> > > So if you stand in
> > > Columbia N of equator at 00.30 am Columbian time
> > it's
> > summer
> > > Columbia S of equator at 00.30 am Columbian time
> > it's winter
> > > Brazil N of equator at 00.30 am Columbian time
> > it's spring
> > > Brazil S of equator at 00.30 am Columbian time
> > it's fall
> > >
> > > How about that?
> > >
> > > The bad news are that all four points seems hard
> > to reach.
> > >
> > > Jesper
> > >
> > >
> > >
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