I think it's interesting to see o many of these stone
still are around. And new borders carved into old
stones. We saw one at the very beginning of this
thread where there was a nice CZ-DE marker placed in
the giant old boulder with the old markings on it.

--- Petter Brabec <pete2784west@...> wrote:

> You are correct. I've been reffering to the stones
> set up between 1920-22. Also improtant to mention,
> where it has not been necessary to set up a new
> stone, the bordermarks have been chiselled in to the
> existing stones. Tripoints and some other
> borderstones in between were almost always of an
> older datum. So, they were non-standardized items
> wearing arms-of coats and/or capitals looking
> different from stone to stone.
> The borderstone nr 17 of sector IX, close to the
> tripoint ATDECZ, is the last stone marking
> bavarian-bohemian border only. These borderstones
> from 1844 are also standardized.
>
> Petter
>
> Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...> wrote:
> Yes, except of course CS on the atcsde stone.
> Unless someone tried
> to get rid of the S for a short period of time until
> the new marker
> was erected. (If the text says the photo was taken
> in 1992, then it
> was just before the point changed from old CS to
> CZ.)
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Petter Brabec
> <pete2784west@y...> wrote:
> > Well, you are making some interesting statements.
> Some of them need
> more elucidation, some of them need correction.
> >
> > Czechoslovakia, as a independent state did indeed
> get their border
> settled first after the St. Germain peace aggreement
> (1919) with just
> about every neighboring state. Their have been some
> some territorial
> changes done by plebiscite into 1921.
> > Most of the borderstones, set up on the frontier
> between
> Czechoslovakia and their neighbors, have their
> origin in the period
> 1920-1922. These can be seen today, when taking a
> stroll on the very
> border (from borderstone to borderstone). Prior to
> 1920 or 1918, that
> is when "the kingdom of the Czech lands" still
> existed, the border of
> the respective lands has not been marked by
> borderstones in any
> definite standardized manner. There were, though,
> set up borderstones
> on important locations, say by the main roads, tops
> of the mountains,
> rivers, tripoints. Since the Austrian Empire has
> been a federation-
> like state, the countries that made the Austrian
> Empire had their
> borderstones between themselves.
> > In 1920, Czechoslovakia had a "worm"-like shape,
> so the
> borderstones set up then stretched far, all the way
> to the CS-PL-RO
> tripoint (in existence between 1919-1939). Today,
> this point is
> located on the ukrainian-romanian border. These
> stones still exist in
> their original position, they are just not painted
> anymore.
> > On these stones, on the Czechoslovakian side are
> the letters CS. C
> stands for Czech, S stands for Slovakia. Not,
> Socialistic as you
> assumed.
> > When it comes to ATDECZ tripoint picture: the guy
> is sitting on the
> top, his left leg is in Austria by the letter "�",
> his right leg is
> in Bavaria (Germany) indicated by the letter "B",
> and his buttocks
> are in the Czech republic indicated by the letter
> "C", but not seen
> on the picture. The photograph is definitely taken
> from south.
> >
> > Petter
> >
> > udomet@g... wrote:
> >
> > > http://platon.cbvk.cz/kniha/priloha/sonnl.php
> >
> > > On stone are visible letters "�" - �sterreich -
> Austria
> > > "B" - Bohemia - Czech
> >
> >
> > I visited 2001-2003 often the border CZ-D
> (Bavaria and Saxony)
> and made
> > many pics and films.
> >
> > First since 1920 CZ and � to set borderstones
> in agreement
> with state
> > treaty of St.-Germain-en-Laye
> > (to WW I). To 1918 was Bohemia a part of
> austrian empire
> without
> > borderstones.
> > "B" is alwas the shortening of all
> borderstones for
> Bavaria/Bayern
> > along border CZ/D and A/D.
> >
> > Shortening for Czech was C or CR to 1948
> (Ceska Republika)
> >
> > CS
> off
> 1948
> > (Ceskoslovenska Socialisticka Republica)
> >
> > and now again C
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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