Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Geographic anomalies
Date: Dec 30, 2000 @ 00:57
Author: Arif Samad (Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>)
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>I don't like calling this an enclave as it does touch
> JUNGHOLZ
> For quite some time I have wondered about the status
> of Jungholz,
> so thank you for the recent clarification on this
> matter. I shall look
> forward to the forthcoming reports from the single
> connection point.
>
> LLIVIA, CAMPIONE D'ITALIA, BAARLE-HERTOG, BUESINGENI have paper maps of all of them. Most of them have
> These are fairly wellknown exclaves. Do you discuss
> them at all,
> and if so, would anyone have any interesting links
> or maps?
>
> MOUNT ATHOSEnclaves have to be integral parts of another country.
> Is this an enclave? How much political independence
> is required
> for us to consider a territory an enclave? By the
> way, does complete
> maritime exclusion count, or do we only concern
> ourselves with
> at least partly landlocked entities?
>
> ST PIERRE ET MIQUELONI don't think it is an integral part of France. If it
> Speaking of maritime exclusion, do we consider the
> small french
> islands just off the east coast of Canada an
> exclave?
>
> GUANTANMO BASEThere have been articles on Cuba and Guantanamo in
> Guantanamo is an american naval base on Cuba. Does
> anyone
> have any interesting input?
>
> CASES OF EXCLAVES WITHIN EXCLAVESThe only book I have seen that mentions the enclave
> Baarle-Hertog is a well-known example of the
> extremely rare case, where
> exclaves exist within exclaves. There is allegedly
> another case in Oman.
> Does anyone have any information on this? By the
> way, did you know
> that there is at least one Dutch exclave within the
> main territory of
> Belgium in the vicinity of Baarle? I'll scan a map
> and put it here if anyone
>
> has interest in this fact.
>
> LITHUANIAYes, there is and it's called Pagiriai. The two
> Is there, or is there not, a lithuanian exclave
> within Belarus?
>
> THE VATICANhttp://www.rmnet.it/~pellegrino/ctv/city_map.htm is
> Does anyone have a *good* map of the Vatican? I'd
> like to be able to
> see precisely where the border is.
>
> CYPRUSYes, there is. There are also Cypriot exclaves and
> There seems to exist at least two british military
> bases, constituting
> independent territories, on Cyprus, and at least one
> turk-cypriotic
> exclave on the north-west coast of the island.
> Information, anyone?
>
> CEUTA, MELILLAI have fairly good maps from a Moroccan book written
> Does anyone have information or good maps of the two
> spanish
> exclaves on the moroccan coast?
>
> NEUTRAL ZONESThere are neutral zones around the territories. Check
> What neutral zones do we know of? Are there neutral
> zones close to
> Gibraltar, Ceuta and Melilla? And what happened to
> the rombic shaped
> neutral zone in the desert between Saudi Arabia and
> Iraq? Is it still
> there?
>
> IRELANDGood question. I am still in search of that after
> Was there ever an irish exclave within the territory
> of Northern Ireland?
> I have a map that would suggest such a case, but it
> may well be a
> badly produced map. Can anyone clarify this case?
>
> HISTORIC GEOGRAPHIC ANOMALIESI do. Please mention your list to me. However, the
>
> Do you concern yourself at all with historic
> enclaves? As the supply of
> living enclaves and exclaves is finite, why not look
> into some not-too-
> long-gone cases?
>
> WEST-BERLINThere were Twelve of them. Catudal has a book titled
> Well, Berlin (West), surely the most well-known
> exclave of the near past.
> But did you know that there were several
> sub-exclaves off Berlin, i. e.
> areas within East-German territory belonging to
> West-Berlin? I have
> found Eiskeller, Steinstuecken (connected to
> West-Berlin with a corridor
> in 1971 or 1972, I think) and Falkenhagener Wiese.
> Were there others?
> What are their stories? Does anyone know? I have a
> wonderful russian
> map that outlines those sub-exclaves and I'll scan
> it if anyone is
> interested.
>
> ZARA or ZADARNo good maps, but there are a few historic books on
> Zara was an italian exclave on the coast of Croatia,
> now called Zadar.
> Does anyone have any information or maps?
>
> PORKALAYes, it was. Originally, it was supposed to be Hanko,
> Porkala was a large Soviet military base on the
> Finish south coast.
> I think the area was rented by the Soviets as part
> of the peace treaty
> following the second world war. Information, anyone?
>
> DANZIGER FREISTAATThe Cambridge atlas of history has a good map. Books
> Does anyone have any information on the State of
> Danzig, which existed
> between the world wars? Good maps?
>