We have noticed it. In fact there are many examples of "indefinite"
state lines on the topo maps. I know of at least three state
tri-points that are incorrectly depicted on the maps. Your comment
raises an interesting issue - is the boundary really indefinite, or
did the USGS simply not know the definition when the map was drawn?
Boundaries seem to be the weakest element in USGS topo maps, no doubt
because they are imaginary features that don't show up on aerial photos.
BJB
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BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> Has anybody noticed that, along MNND about two miles north of the
tripoint and
> along MNSD about 3.5 miles south, the same map says "indefinite
boundary"? This
> is a disclaimer by the feds saying, "Hey, we only put this dotted
line were we
> did because we had to put it somewhere. Don't take it to the bank!"
>
> Lowell
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "m donner" <maxivan82@h...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:00 AM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] mnndsd ideas
>
>
> > just noticed on the mnndsd topo
> > http://tinyurl.com/grbw
> > wherever the elusive damn line & with it the tripoint may actually
fall
> > today in terms of the ndsd line
> > whether 594 feet east or 80 feet east or some other distance east
of the
> > witness monument
> > nevertheless
> > in terms of the underlying public land system
> > the tripoint will still fall along the south edge of a mnnd
section & the
> > north edge of a mnsd section
> >
> > these interstate sections btw & fyi are respectively
> > section 34 of range 47 west in township 129 north
> > to the north of the tripoint
> > & section 3 of range 47 west in township 128 north
> > to the south of the tripoint
> >
> >
> > so first i have to wonder if the 2 sections or subsections
involved have
> > ever been legally subdivided by the river
> > or by the damn line
> > if different
> > to produce in either case 4 unistate parcels of land all meeting
at the
> > tripoint
> > or whether the public land sections or subsections involved remain
undivided
> > by the damn line
> > & produce interstate parcels of land merely sandwiching the tripoint
> > while continuing to incorporate & straddle the river &or the damn line
> >
> > but more to the point
> > i also have to wonder exactly how the county land offices have
distributed
> > or delineated the affected sections for dividing up the tax bills
> > regardless of whether the acreages are split between different
landowners or
> > merely allocated for the benefit of single landholders
> >
> >
> > & since these 2 sections arent the only mnnd & mnsd sections
requiring such
> > treatment
> > they should not present obscure & difficult cases to research
> > but rather i would expect them to represent routine instances of a tax
> > allocation method that must be used all along the bois de sioux
> > where the public land sections are routinely divided by the river
> >
> > so my guess is that the tax assessors will not be put out or
embarrassed at
> > all by our questions
> > but will have the answers to them readily available for us in
their standard
> > verbal &or platted descriptions
> >
> > we simply need to ask in wheaton mn
> > where is the sw corner of the mentioned section 34 in minnesota
> > & where is the nw corner of the mentioned section 3 in minnnesota
> > while making sure that it is indeed the same point they give us
> > & then to ask for the corresponding corners on the other side of
the damn
> > line
> > in wahpeton nd & in sisseton sd respectively
> > which will incidentally be the same as ndse & sdne respectively
> > making them that much easier to refer to & identify
> > but again
> > being careful that there is indeed full agreement & a single
geoposition
> >
> > & with any luck all these data should agree & may well be
obtainable by
> > phone
> >
> > but in any case what fun even if they dont agree or cant be had so
easily
> >
> > any thoughts
> >
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