Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Answers from the IBC
Date: Jun 07, 2003 @ 17:18
Author: Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
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On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Jesper Nielsen wrote:

> DMBC?
>  
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doug Murray
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Answers from the IBC
>
>
> Perhaps I should work for the IBC!
>
>
> On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 01:42 PM, Peter Smaardijk wrote:
>
> Thanks Doug!
>
> More below.
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Doug Murray <doug@d...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all:
> >
> > The following email just arrived from the IBC.  My comments follow!
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > Dear Mr. Murray,
> >
> > Your request for information was forwarded to my attention. I will
> > address your questions in the order they were presented.
> >
> >
> > 1. I passed this question on to Mr. David Gray, a maritime boundary
> > specialist with the Department of Fisheries and Oceans and he
> provided
> > me with the following answer: "Throughout the 526 nautical mile
> length
> > of the boundary between Canada and France that surrounds the French
> > islands of St. Pierre and Miquelon, theboundary touches the low
> water
> > mark of two islets that are Canadian; namely:
> >
> > Point 4 of the 1972 Agreement between Canada and France is
> described as
> > "The low water mark on the south-westernmost point of Enfant Perdu
> > (Canada)",Point 5 of the 1972 Agreement between Canada and France
> is
> > described as "The low water mark on the west point of the
> > south-westernmost island of theLittle Green Island group".
> >
> > By being at the low water mark at the most South-westerly or
> Westerly
> > point of these islets, the boundary does not cross these islets.
> There
> > are no islets thatare in between any of the turning points of the
> > boundary; therefore, nowhere does the boundary cross any other
> islet".
> >
> >
> > [So... do we consider this case closed??]
>
> Well... we could. I think that we already came to a good conclusion,
> albeit not confirmed officially. This remark by Mr. Arseneault
> doesn't really address explicitly the problem of the boundary
> crossing the islands of the turning points. He _does_ say that the
> boundary doesn't cross the islands, but he could have said that the
> boundary in that case makes a detour from the line as described in
> the treaty. Or that that line only applies to the sea, not to the
> land. But in practice both Canada and France will stick to this
> explanation. Until something really important happens on the piece of
> land that we focus on... Not very likely :-)
>
> Peter S.
>
>
> PS:
>
> (...)
> [ If only you could see the smile on my face!  I have responded that
> I would love to join the crews along Zero Ave and Point Roberts! I
> asked for permission to take photos as well ] (...)
>
>
> I can imagine that! An official BP representative present at the IBC!
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