meanwhile back in new guinea
the 4 probably matching marker candidates for dry bpe are of
cement & date from around 1966

the northernmost stands near the right bank of the fly river & the
southernmost 250 km away near the mouth of the benbach river
probably also on its right bank but that position is unconfirmed

& in between these 2 stand only their 2 fellow candidates
which could turn out to be roadstones since they are in an
otherwise remote savannah region with only 2 likely thru routes
shown crossing it & the border on maps

some if not all 4 of the monuments straddle the tonda wildlife
management area on the papuan side & the wasur national park
on the indonesian side
which together comprise over a million hectares

lots more from brendan in message 2275
but pix are still elusive even with the several new search terms

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
<orc@o...> wrote:

> finally a peek at dry bps
> the southernmost dry boundary point in the world
> first by map
> where you can also see it abuts a restricted nature area
> http://www.tierradelfuego.org.ar/pntf/mapas.htm
> & then the long panoramic view up beagle channel from

ushuaia

>

http://www.argentinaxplora.com/activida/parques/parc/tfuego.htm

> class d but good looking
>
> the coastal terminal point of the meridional border
> which i have also confirmed has been delimited at exactly 68
> degrees 34 minutes west longitude as well as marked at least
> in places
> falls probably well within the photo
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
> <orc@o...> wrote:
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, jesniel@i... wrote:
> > >

http://www.dpc.dk/PolarfrontenDPC/3_01/IslandsReport.html

> >
> > which reminds me
> > which reminds me
> > ever since craig arrived with dry bpn
> > aka the northernmost dry boundary point on earth
> > in message 8709
> > we have made precious little progress toward bringing home
> the
> > remaining cardinal extremity dry points
> > namely dry bpe & dry bpw & dry bps
> > to complete our global dry bp news tour
> > which tho so well begun is still nowheres near half done
> >
> > the best progress i can claim to have made so far is with dry
> bpe
> > for i have at least definitely located it at one of 4 monuments

all

> > somewhere in south central new guinea
> > at or very near elong 141d01m10s
> > & numbered respectively mm11 mm12 mm13 & mm14
> >
> > these are all mapped as well as precisely geocoordinated in
> >
>

http://www.vanuatu.usp.ac.fj/pactreaties/Treaties_etc/treaties_In

> > donesia_&_Australia1.html
> >
> > the difficulty here tho is that until someone lays an industrial
> > strength gps on all 4 of these monuments
> > we wont know which of them is a few millimeters farther east
> > than the others
> > tho it is some consolation to at least know the longitude of

dry

> > bpe down to the nearest second wherever it may lie
> >
> > no pix of any of the 4 candidate monuments nor of any of the

> > probably identical monuments in this series have yet been
> found
> >
> >
> > turning next to dry bpw
> > which is in itself a fun thing to do
> > since it lies at almost the mirror image of the dry bpe

longitude

> > this has been a real beguiler because it is right here on caus
> > & tho i have long had its location down to about a 10 foot
> square
> > at wlong 141d00m07s6 & nlat 60d18m22s9
> > & can identify it both as boundary point 187 & as the famous
> > turnpoint on a shoulder of mount saint elias where the long
> > meridional caus line begins its peak to peak zigzag down the
> > alaska panhandle
> > i dont even know if it is monumented
> >
> > in fact i rather doubt it is marked at all
> > strange tho it feels to imagine a completely naked turnpoint
> > because many of its serial mates have expressly been
> assigned
> > monument numbers by the ibc rather than simply boundary
> point
> > numbers such as this point & some others have
> > according to
> >
>

http://www.internationalboundarycommission.org/coordinates/S

> > ECT-P-83.txt
> > &
> >
>

http://www.internationalboundarycommission.org/coordinates/S

> > ECT-Q-83.txt
> >
> > & tho picture archives show many of the key monuments on
> the
> > alaska border
> > none is ever mentioned as existing at this most critical

position

> >
> > pix of mount saint elias also abound
> > but none in which this turnpoint or any part of the border can

> > discerned
> >
> >
> > i did just find several interesting pages tho about this

peculiar

> > peak to peak caus line dating back to 1825 when it was still
> gbru
> > beginning at
> > http://www.explorenorth.com/library/weekly/aa103000a.htm
> >
> >
> > & turning finally to dry bps
> > which is nowheres near a mirror image of the dry bpn

latitude

> > being a whopping 15 degrees less extreme than it
> > this point is easily identifiable as being where the argentina
> chile
> > meridional border meets the beagle channel on tierra del
> fuego
> > but i have found no word of where the terminal monument

lies

> > & no pic yet of any arcl monument anywhere for that matter
> > nor any pic yet either of the otherwise much photographed
> > channel showing the place where the border strikes it
> >
> > a most mysterious & intriguing complete absence of data
> >
> >
> > so all in all it is hard to say which of these 3 tries has been
> most
> > elusive so far