Subject: the quest for americas shortest state line advances<br/>
Date: May 11, 2003 @ 00:52<br/>
Author: acroorca2002 (&quot;acroorca2002&quot; &lt;orc@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1046214968">arif &al<br/>
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a review of the surfable data indicates no news of the further <br/>
actualization of the new ellis island njny boundary since jan 2000<br/>
when final congressional ratification was still pending<br/>
as it presumably still is<br/>
<br/>
so if njny ellis is a candidate for americas shortest<br/>
it is evidently only a prospective candidate<br/>
& thus an immediate trip to the island might be premature in any <br/>
case<br/>
even if the 180 points are already marked there on the ground<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
& i think we can now make the final pronouncement <br/>
for now<br/>
which is<br/>
the shortest state line in the usa is kytn2 <br/>
at about 3 miles<br/>
yeay<br/>
followed by depa<br/>
which is also the shortest interstate boundary in the usa <br/>
at about 20 miles<br/>
ref message 9922 etc<br/>
<br/>
footnotes<br/>
1<br/>
if rationalized fractal boundary candidates are included<br/>
both njny liberty & extant njny ellis are not only serious <br/>
contenders <br/>
but probably each the winner in its own right<br/>
yikes<br/>
at perhaps 2 miles each in circumambulation<br/>
yet since the 2 appear so nearly equal<br/>
& since extant njny ellis is unknowable exactly<br/>
it remains unknowable as well which of the 2 is shorter<br/>
hahaha<br/>
& therefore the shortest of all 3 <br/>
if it were allowed<br/>
but to do so would ignore truest available truth<br/>
2<br/>
the azco & nmut point at azconmut<br/>
measuring in at exactly 0 miles<br/>
is or are disqualified by the formulation <br/>
state line<br/>
tho it or they might qualify as shortest boundary or boundaries<br/>
3<br/>
looking ahead probably to some day in the near future<br/>
when the new njny ellis is fully realized  <br/>
i have already been able to estimate the perimeter of the 180 <br/>
point model at about 2 miles<br/>
making it very probably americas future shortest state line<br/>
but the call is so close that it cant be made with confidence til <br/>
measurement or computation of the total length is made<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
so thats the state of the union for now<br/>
& i would say a trip to ellis is perhaps inevitable &or imminent <br/>
but not urgent & possibly even rash at this point<br/>
<br/>
& i will call the njdep monday to see if i cant get the coords of the <br/>
180 points <br/>
since knowing them would permit computations that would <br/>
actually obviate the measuring trip entirely<br/>
even assuming there is anything there yet to measure<br/>
which i cant & dont<br/>
etc<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
so at least a phonecall <br/>
before pointing & bounding further</div>