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65700 – 65800

65000 – 65342

65345 – 65669


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Last revised November 16, 2007


NdeM 65700 – 65800



-         Nuevo or New date (left of door) 5-48

-         36’-0” IL, 8’-6” IW, 7’-8” IH with a capacity of 80,000 lbs, 2346 cu.ft (with an extreme outside width of 9’-10”)

-         4/4 Dreadnaught ends

-         Murphy rectangular panel roof

-         6’-0” wide side door openings with corrugated door

-         1’-11” wide x 8” high end door opening (lumber door – A-end)

-         Andrews 40-ton trucks

Cars in service; 99 (1952), 83 (1962)



NdeM 65708

Location (?) – 1948 – Photographer (?)


            This is one of those photographs that raise as many questions as it answers.  It would be easy for me to interpret what I see as fact, but that would only serve to confuse other information that will come in future studies.  In looking at the photo; first note the adjacent car; it is from the series of post war cars built for the NdeM by AC&F in 1946.  Second, this is an outside braced car, similar in appearance to the Fowler cars of 1917 through to the early 1920’s.  But it is not a Fowler car as many of the key patents held by William E. Fowler[i] are missing.  Next are the dates, the stencilling reads “NEW 1948” to the left of the door (that would be placed on a rebuilt car).  Included in the dimensional data is “CONST. 1948” it was customary to use the term re-built or re-constructed on rebuilt cars.  I am going to assume this is a rebuilt car.  Why in 1948 would anyone build a brand new car using a forty-year-old design and then set it on obsolete Andrew trucks?


The ends have no buffer blocks; this indicates a modification to the center sills and coupler mounting.  The car appears to have round corner sections; this was a feature of the Dreadnaught ends starting in 1939/40.  Counting what is visible of the ribs, it is the 4/4 configuration used on many of the shorter refrigerator and stock cars of the era.


The roof, although very hard to see, appears to have raised panels in each section; this indicates the use of Murphy rectangular raised panels in the roof construction.  This practice was very typical of cars built or rebuilt during the war era.


Although the brake gear cannot be seen, the absence of the brake shaft with the wheel located above the roof is quite obvious, indicating the existence of a power assist hand brake assembly.  Also with the 1948 date, it should be safe to assume an AB brake system was installed?  But this is an assumption; after all, the car is riding on obsolete Andrew trucks.


MODELING SERIES 65700 – 65800

But in saying all that, of the many kits of the Fowler or Dominion cars on the market I chose the Kaslo Shops version (kit #HK-9, steel roof version) as a starting point for this kit-bash project.  For the ends use Details West #1001, round corner 4/4 Dreadnaught ends.


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Other Re-Built Cars in Revenue Service


I have only one photo of a car in one of these sub-groups.  The basic or overall dimensions of the others give no insight to the cars appearance and as such are insufficient to model from.  IF ANY ONE HAS PHOTOGRAPHS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE, I would be happy to include them in a future addendum.


65000 – 65342

-         40’-0” IL, 8’-6” IW, 8’-0” IH with a capacity of 100,000 lbs (based on the inside width and the extreme outside width of 9’-9” – this is an outside braced car)

-         6’-6” wide door opening

Cars in service; 56 (1952), 28 (1962)


65345 – 65669

-         40’-0” IL, 8’-6” IW, 8’-0” IH with a capacity of 80,000 lbs (based on the inside width and the extreme outside width of 9’-9” – this is also an outside braced car)

-         6’-0 wide door opening

Cars in service; 222 (1952), 102 (1962)










[i] William E. Fowler was the senior engineer for the Dominion Car Company in Montreal, Quebec Canada prior to starting The Fowler Car Company of Chicago.  The Fowler Car Company did not construct freight cars themselves, but as they held all the key patents, others built the cars under license.