Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] hopes for a quintisecondary point are waning<br/>
Date: Nov 29, 2000 @ 02:58<br/>
Author: michael donner (michael donner &lt;m@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1851894355"><blockquote><span title="ireply">&gt;<br/>
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&gt;<br/>
&gt;&gt;tho the caspian & black seas could still conceivably yield quintinational<br/>
&gt;&gt;points if they are ever divided up among their coastal countries<br/>
&gt;&gt;<br/>
&gt;&gt;<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;No. each coastal nation will , as per international law, use negotiated<br/>
&gt;equidistance lines out to sea from the extrewmity of their land boundaries,<br/>
&gt;and these will not end up in anythingm ore than a tripoint or 2. It is<br/>
&gt;possible that they could negotiate to create a multipoint, but extremely<br/>
&gt;unlikely given the geographies of each sea in question. Much more likely<br/>
&gt;that a few connected tripoints will emerge as a result of equidistance<br/>
&gt;principles, possibly with some negotiated changes, as per the German seas in<br/>
&gt;the North sea which extend further than pure equidistance would suggest.<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;Brendan<br/>
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<br/>
 </span></blockquote>glad to have your reaction<br/>
but again i wonder<br/>
do you mean<br/>
  no  they could not conceivably do so<br/>
    for i  did  just conceive of it<br/>
<br/>
on the other hand<br/>
i would agree wholeheartedly if you only mean<br/>
  no  they arent likely to do so<br/>
    for that was precisely my point<br/>
<br/>
both first & second order quintipoints seem highly improbable now<br/>
leaving our otherwise humble third order specimen paramount by default<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
international law does not require or guarantee that the equidistance<br/>
principle is adopted in any given case<br/>
but i agree law & custom do tend toward equidistance<br/>
  all other things being equal<br/>
    which of course they rarely are<br/>
      & that is the rub<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
martin wrote last month<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt;I hesitate to speculate about maritime tripoints, since any attempt to<br/>
&gt;count them involves some kind of assumption about delimitation<br/>
&gt;methodology. Most attempts to map potential maritime boundaries assume<br/>
&gt;equidistance as a guiding principle. I have no quibble with this, as long<br/>
&gt;as it is recognized that the eventual outcome may be very different.<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>& it seems to me<br/>
both the caspian & black sea allocations will be conservative in view of<br/>
the petroleum deposits that are at stake<br/>
<br/>
i actually expect 3 tripoints in the caspian & 4 in the black sea<br/>
  which is the only part of what you say that i disagree with<br/>
<br/>
the math is fun too<br/>
<br/>
a quadripoint or quintipoint would reduce these point counts by 1 or 2<br/>
respectively<br/>
<br/>
& the black sea could conceivably yield 2 quadripoints<br/>
  come to think of it<br/>
    but again the operative word is conceivably<br/>
<br/>
cheers<br/>
m</div>